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[CLOSED] Buchla style & format panels (258, 292, 281, 19

Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:05 pm

Oct 29 2012 -
See new thread for the re-order of these panels



Everything has shipped
unless we have communication otherwise

Here is what is still available. These are first come, first serve. Prices and shipping are the same. I want to be absolutely sure everyone who preordered gets their stuff safe and sound so I will not be shipping these for 2 weeks. I still have enough of each panel for 2-3 "full" sets.

What is still available:
258x0
281x0
292x1
194x0
CVPx2
266x0

keninverse - 2x258
Arnoid - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP, 1x266
legionhwp - 1x258, 1xCVP
303monkey 1x194, 1xCVP
mattrick - 258x2, 194x1 , 292x1, 281x1, CVPx1, 266x1
djs - 1x258
Minimoog56 - 1x281, 1x292


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These are for buchla format panels (7"x4.25") with 3.5mm/minijack and banana jack holes where appropriate. The first picture is the panel designs, the colored holes are just for size designation. All print on the panels will be blue. The actual panels will look like the second picture as far as the blue print/metal background. If you have any concerns about the designs it's not too late to make changes. Here is an earlier thread for info and discussion: viewtopic.php?t=50525

I need to hit about 15 of each panel. I plan on ordering 1 design first, to make sure everything is good and then I will order all the rest. I can ship all panels at once to save you money and me time. If all goes well I will design more panels for future runs (such as the 291).

Prices:
258J $33 ORDER CLOSED
281 $37
292 $33
194x2 $31
Volt proc $37

Shipping: $4 US, $12 international per order. If you require tracking, insurance, etc. that is extra and you must request it. I am going to borrow Clarke's ordering format. Please PM me with the following info:
I'm ordering [x] pieces of the "panel type" for $xx, plus shipping, for a total of $xx.

I'm aware that I may have to pay additional amounts of customs and tax in my country.

I'm also aware that I'm only buying screened and drilled panel that may help me building an electronic module - I'm *not* buying a diy kit, not a "project" - just a screened/drilled panel. I know how to build electronic circuits and I am trained in electrical safety matters. The seller of these panels will not be held responsible for any damage that results from these panels, directly or indirectly.

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My PayPal address is xxxx@xxxx.com
My Forumname is xxxxxx
EDIT: Orders closed for the 258 panel. The other panels will remain open until the order is placed.
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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:05 pm

order list:

RSFC – 2x258, 2x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
Junk Rhythm – 1x194, 1xCVP
PF – 2x258, 1x292, 1x281, 1x194, 1xCVP
Iopop – 1x258, 1x292, 1x194
Valis - 2x258, 2x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
Toppobrillo - 1x194, 1xCVP
monokinetic - 1x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1xCVP
ndkent - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
jooks - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1xCVP
Pfurmel - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
dreamlost - 1x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1xCVP
E.A.S. - 1x258, 1x281, 1x292
johanboberg - 1x292
freeyerheel - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
zoot horn rolo - 1x258, 2x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
frozenkore - 1x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
diophantine - 3x258, 2x281, 2x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
djangosfire - 3x258, 3x281, 3x292, 2x194, 1xCVP
batchas - 2x258, 2xCVP, 2x194
Votek Mendo - 2x281, 2x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
equalpyramid - 1x258, 1x281
303monkey - 3x258, 2x281, 2x292, 2x194, 1xCVP
julian - 2x258, 2x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
Sanders - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292
Gwaidan - 2x258, 1x281, 1x292, 1x194, 1xCVP
dar303 - 1x258, 2x281, 2x292
demian - 1x258, 1x194, 1xCVP
KNYST - 1x258, 1x281
xpander - 1x281, 1x292
djs - 1x281, 1xCVP
FrankV - 1x281
Keniverse - 2x281, 1x292, 1x194 1xCVP
lessavyfav - 1x281

We need to get in the neighborhood of 15 of each panel to make this pricing work. I will keep a tally of those ordered at the bottom FWIW
258 – 38 33
281 – 31
292 – 26
194 – 20
CVP– 22

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Post by sanders » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:48 pm

What is the finish on the front of the panel?

What is the thickness of the aluminum?

what is the method of PCB attachment?

Just a suggestion-- if you haven't done so--you should try making a mock-up of the 281 and 292, and see if you can fit a shorting banana between the four input/outputs. This is a really cool and important design feature built into these panels.

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Post by toppobrillo » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:17 pm

im in for a CVP and 2x194

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Post by toppobrillo » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:31 pm

btw- I have some panel art i can contribute, ie fonts, scales, things of this nature, what program are you using to design? would be nice to see full size drawings.

also, you are getting #4 brushed finish yes? and did you say the blue is gonna be screened? thanks again

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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:46 pm

Good questions.

sanders wrote:What is the finish on the front of the panel?
satin anodize, will look like the sample picture. This anodize also protects the screen print. EDIT: I am going to check into brushed panels - see next post.
sanders wrote:What is the thickness of the aluminum?
.063"
sanders wrote:what is the method of PCB attachment?
This is intentionally left open-ended. I will be attaching standoffs to the back of the panel with JB-Weld. Another method is making an L-bracket with holes for the pots. I wanted to avoid screw holes on the front panels. If someone really wanted them, they could carefully drill holes.
sanders wrote:Just a suggestion-- if you haven't done so--you should try making a mock-up of the 281 and 292, and see if you can fit a shorting banana between the four input/outputs. This is a really cool and important design feature built into these panels.
I am guessing you mean the little black double banana things I see in some pictures. No I haven't checked - I don't even own a shorting banana. The hole placement should be very close to the originals.
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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:55 pm

toppobrillo wrote: btw- I have some panel art i can contribute, ie fonts, scales, things of this nature, what program are you using to design? would be nice to see full size drawings.
That would be welcome. I am using inkscape. I will post full size when I get a chance.

toppobrillo wrote: also, you are getting #4 brushed finish yes? and did you say the blue is gonna be screened? thanks again
I'll check into the brushed finish. I don't remember it being an option but i do see it in their materials now that you mention it. I was quoted on a satin finish. MPC says their color process is a silk screen but it is anodized over.

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Post by Junk Rhythm » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:51 pm

Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
sanders wrote:what is the method of PCB attachment?
This is intentionally left open-ended. I will be attaching standoffs to the back of the panel with JB-Weld. Another method is making an L-bracket with holes for the pots. I wanted to avoid screw holes on the front panels. If someone really wanted them, they could carefully drill holes.
Perfect. I would rather punch the holes I need versus dealing with holes I may not need.

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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:14 pm

I exported PNG files above. It looks like it may have shrunk them on the forum but they were exported full size. I was messing with background color earlier, disregard that.

I did just have that the lettering at the top of the control voltage processor is a little larger than the other panels. I will fix that. I'm glad more people are starting to bring up good questions/suggestions.

I am going to wait a little before I send invoices to make sure everything is correct and good as possible and check if there is a significant difference on the brushed panels.

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Re: [ORDER] Buchla style & format panels (258, 292, 281,

Post by valis » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:56 pm

Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: I plan on ordering 1 design first, to make sure everything is good and then I will order all the rest.
Please post pics when you get the first run of panels...

PM sent with order :tu:

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Re: [ORDER] Buchla style & format panels (258, 292, 281,

Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:15 am

valis wrote:
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: I plan on ordering 1 design first, to make sure everything is good and then I will order all the rest.
Please post pics when you get the first run of panels...
I will.

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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:24 pm

Some thoughts, helpful hints, etc.:

decaying.sine will be offering the blue rogan knobs that will go perfect with these panels: viewtopic.php?t=34941&highlight=rogan

The earlier black style knobs are available through mouser: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Dav ... kmyBnRqlQ3 & http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Dav ... pcaw%3d%3d

As for case ideas, the same "bud box" used for Best of CGS builds is perfect for 4 panels. I plan to use these panels side-by-side with my CGS/serge DIY stuff. I also just noticed mouser also have a shallow 2" deep box. Boxes can be found here: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bud ... EL%2frk%3d & http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bud ... EGzDtOA%3d

For that matter, the Best of CGS build thread has good info on banana jacks, cables etc.

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Post by toppobrillo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:33 pm

fwiw the bud boxes arent a great solution to case buchla alikes, the lip on the sides must be removed and the top and bottom lip must be trimmed down considerably for enough of them to make it necessary. also the boxes i had were slighly shy of both specified dimensions, (you also lose almost an 1/8" of inside width due to the inside fold of the box on either side) real pain esp with dense modules like the 281, where the pcbs and hardware come right out to the edge.. jurgen haible stuff is an issue too. ended up making my own case for mine.

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Post by sanders » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:23 pm

toppobrillo wrote:fwiw the bud boxes arent a great solution to case buchla alikes, the lip on the sides must be removed and the top and bottom lip must be trimmed down considerably for enough of them to make it necessary. also the boxes i had were slighly shy of both specified dimensions, (you also lose almost an 1/8" of inside width due to the inside fold of the box on either side) real pain esp with dense modules like the 281, where the pcbs and hardware come right out to the edge.. jurgen haible stuff is an issue too. ended up making my own case for mine.
I had a lot trouble cutting these flanges off until I realized that $10 aluminum sheers from home depot cut through this gauge without much fuss. You have to be very very careful how and where you cut, if you want the end result to look even (of course this part is not visible once you mount modules). Also, unless you file the edges, they can be quite sharp once cut.

I tried a lot of different time consuming cutting methods before trying these sheers--hack saw, circular drill bit disks, dremmel, etc. nothing else worked well.

You can also get flat black hammered finish spray paint at home depot that will make these boats look exactly like 200e boats after several coats.

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Post by Junk Rhythm » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:25 pm

sanders wrote:You can also get flat black hammered finish spray paint at home depot that will make these boats look exactly like 200e boats after several coats.
Thanks, that's good to know.

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Post by toppobrillo » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:50 pm

I used a nibbler tool to cut grooves, then bent/ snapped it off in pieces. it was a pain, but in the end still didnt work out because of the inside dimension tolerance and the seams. you might have better luck with your boats though..

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Post by sanders » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:19 am

toppobrillo wrote:I used a nibbler tool to cut grooves, then bent/ snapped it off in pieces. it was a pain, but in the end still didnt work out because of the inside dimension tolerance and the seams. you might have better luck with your boats though..
I basically did the same-- and it was an incredible pain because you can't break off the whole flange, you need part of it to mount the modules (unless you then add some other part) So, you need something that will cut with a good amount of control. The only problem that I continue to have with the sheers I have is they tend to cut on a curve, and you have to get at it at a weird angle. So, it's still not easy to do well, but they at least do the cutting easy.

With all this group mind construction and buying going on around here-- someone could actually organize a group buy for boats as well. Bud will custom make boats in what dimension you want at pretty reasonable price-- maybe $40-$50 each, but there's a 10 or 20 minimum. But I'm sure it would be no problem at all to get them without flanges, to get them in a more shallow size, or... to have 6 panel boats made.

I posted all this before, but there wasn't much interest. They'll also mill and screen print front panels for the boats-- which would be great for Serge projects in the US.

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Post by jooks » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:27 am

Pm'd for order of 1x281, 1x292, 1x258 :party:

I have the same experience with bud boxes. It's doable but a pain to cut them out...they are great once you have fixed them though!

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Post by Pfurmel » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:41 am

sanders wrote: With all this group mind construction and buying going on around here-- someone could actually organize a group buy for boats as well. Bud will custom make boats in what dimension you want at pretty reasonable price-- maybe $40-$50 each, but there's a 10 or 20 minimum. But I'm sure it would be no problem at all to get them without flanges, to get them in a more shallow size, or... to have 6 panel boats made.

I posted all this before, but there wasn't much interest. They'll also mill and screen print front panels for the boats-- which would be great for Serge projects in the US.
Maybe there would be more interest now, there is another BOCGS round just finished so people are surely going to be looking for enclosures...

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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:20 am

I would buy a few boxes sanders. If not I will probably modify an existing. I am glad you guys brought up some helpful tips.

I am waiting on a re-quote for the panels with brushed finish. I'm hoping the price difference is insignificant.

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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:21 pm

I just got the quote back and if we want to go with brushed the prices will have to go up a little. Fortunately its only $1-2 per panel. At a quantity of 15 I’m not making anything on these so I don’t have a choice but to pass the cost on. I apologize that I didn’t get “brushed” finish quoted up front but I really didn’t know what the consensus was on these things as there wasn’t a lot of feedback in my other threads… I will change the prices above to the new prices and leave the information below for info.

At any rate these are the price changes going from standard satin anodize finish to #4 brushed
258 from $32 to $33
194 from $30 to $31
CVP from $35 to $37
281 from $35 to $37
292 no change 33

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Post by jooks » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:46 pm

Still great prices I think!

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Post by toppobrillo » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:57 pm

yeah no biggie. they will look nicer :D so mr. serling, can you export your art to PDF for me?

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Post by Pfurmel » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:58 am

Im fine with the new prices. I think the brushed finish will look much nicer.

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Post by Rod Serling Fan Club » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:55 am

Toppo is assisting by checking the art to get them as buchla-accurate as possible. That should be good news for everyone interested.

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