Super Sixteen build support thread

Creator of of the Super Sixteen Sequencer and based in San Francisco. This is a DIY and Finished Good product for Eurorack.
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extralifedisco wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:14 pm
zqz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:12 am Thank you.
did not help, keeps jumping value
Interesting. I suspect there is an issue with the power supply you are running it on (high noise). One other thing you can try is to set the display brightness to level 4 (instead of default 5). Enter calibrate mode (SHIFT+14), then press button 9 (tempo) and adjust brightness using the DATA encoder. When set to 4, the display/LED multiplexing will run in cycles of 4 so that all the potentiometer reads should always be synced to same part of the multiplexing cycle.
pots jumps if touch without plastic knob. with knobs it works good, thanks for change threshold! Perfect!
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Hi,
I found someone in a FB group selling a PCB and panel set, so I bought that and ordered the parts I needed to complete the build.
The Royal Mail is somewhat chaotic right now and the parts I ordered from Mouser, all the way from Texas, USA, came before the PCB set. It was then I discovered that the PCB set was the SMT version not the through hole I was expecting. So I need to find a through hole PCB set to go with the TH parts I have. I was hoping that Thonk would stock them, but alas, out of stock. Any plans for Thonk being supplied with just PCB sets any time soon ?
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Texy wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:04 pm Hi,
I found someone in a FB group selling a PCB and panel set, so I bought that and ordered the parts I needed to complete the build.
The Royal Mail is somewhat chaotic right now and the parts I ordered from Mouser, all the way from Texas, USA, came before the PCB set. It was then I discovered that the PCB set was the SMT version not the through hole I was expecting. So I need to find a through hole PCB set to go with the TH parts I have. I was hoping that Thonk would stock them, but alas, out of stock. Any plans for Thonk being supplied with just PCB sets any time soon ?
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Hey, I'm not sure if Thonk will continue to stock PCBs - I think they are focusing on kits and full modules but will ask next time I chat with them. I am happy to ship to the UK if you want to order from the web shop here: https://store.extralifeinstruments.com/ ... controller
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Texy wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:04 pm Hi,
I found someone in a FB group selling a PCB and panel set, so I bought that and ordered the parts I needed to complete the build.
The Royal Mail is somewhat chaotic right now and the parts I ordered from Mouser, all the way from Texas, USA, came before the PCB set. It was then I discovered that the PCB set was the SMT version not the through hole I was expecting. So I need to find a through hole PCB set to go with the TH parts I have. I was hoping that Thonk would stock them, but alas, out of stock. Any plans for Thonk being supplied with just PCB sets any time soon ?
Texy
Hey, I'm not sure if Thonk will continue to stock PCBs - I think they are focusing on kits and full modules but will ask next time I chat with them. I am happy to ship to the UK if you want to order from the web shop here: https://store.extralifeinstruments.com/ ... controller
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extralifedisco wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 pm
Texy wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:04 pm Hi,
I found someone in a FB group selling a PCB and panel set, so I bought that and ordered the parts I needed to complete the build.
The Royal Mail is somewhat chaotic right now and the parts I ordered from Mouser, all the way from Texas, USA, came before the PCB set. It was then I discovered that the PCB set was the SMT version not the through hole I was expecting. So I need to find a through hole PCB set to go with the TH parts I have. I was hoping that Thonk would stock them, but alas, out of stock. Any plans for Thonk being supplied with just PCB sets any time soon ?
Texy
Hey, I'm not sure if Thonk will continue to stock PCBs - I think they are focusing on kits and full modules but will ask next time I chat with them. I am happy to ship to the UK if you want to order from the web shop here: https://store.extralifeinstruments.com/ ... controller
Thanks - sending you a PM.....
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Re: Super Sixteen build support thread

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Sometimes, while sequence is playing (pitch and gate outs connected to other modules), if i touch cv input nut with patch cable (not connecting to anything) the sequence is stop, sometimes. What it can be?
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Sometimes, while sequence is playing (pitch and gate outs connected to other modules), if i touch cv input nut with patch cable (not connecting to anything) the sequence is stop, sometimes. What it can be? :hmm:
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Texy wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:39 am
extralifedisco wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 pm
Texy wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:04 pm Hi,
I found someone in a FB group selling a PCB and panel set, so I bought that and ordered the parts I needed to complete the build.
The Royal Mail is somewhat chaotic right now and the parts I ordered from Mouser, all the way from Texas, USA, came before the PCB set. It was then I discovered that the PCB set was the SMT version not the through hole I was expecting. So I need to find a through hole PCB set to go with the TH parts I have. I was hoping that Thonk would stock them, but alas, out of stock. Any plans for Thonk being supplied with just PCB sets any time soon ?
Texy
Hey, I'm not sure if Thonk will continue to stock PCBs - I think they are focusing on kits and full modules but will ask next time I chat with them. I am happy to ship to the UK if you want to order from the web shop here: https://store.extralifeinstruments.com/ ... controller
Thanks - sending you a PM.....
Texy
PCB's (only) ordered.
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On my module, it stores no more than 16 sequences in memory. What could be the problem?
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zqz wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:54 am On my module, it stores no more than 16 sequences in memory. What could be the problem?
What happens if you try to save more than 16 sequences? What is the exact part number of your memory IC?
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extralifedisco wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:11 pm
zqz wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:54 am On my module, it stores no more than 16 sequences in memory. What could be the problem?
What happens if you try to save more than 16 sequences? What is the exact part number of your memory IC?
saving the 17th preset, it does everything as usual, it seems that it saves, but when you load a clean 18th preset, it turns out that 17 does not save. Same story with all presets after 16th

W25Q80DVSSIG (but Ali stuff)
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extralifedisco wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:11 pm
zqz wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:54 am On my module, it stores no more than 16 sequences in memory. What could be the problem?
What happens if you try to save more than 16 sequences? What is the exact part number of your memory IC?
sorry, that is exact W25Q80DVSNIG/REEL
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Hi,

I recently finished a Super Sixteen build I purchased with preprogrammed Atmega. Had some issues with the unit being unable to load and save patches which seems to be fixed after replacing the memory chip, but now I ran into an issue I didn't have before, which is that the unit will not put out any v/oct under 1v . Whenever I turn the Octave encoder to -3 or -4 and the pitch encoder is a 0 or less, the V/oct output will just put out 8v. The same thing happens when I am at -1 and transpose down more than an octave.
I am a bit at a loss as to where I should start to try and solve the problem...

thanks for any help in advance :)

EDIT: Upon further testing, I can add that this issue only refers to the PITCH out. The CV out in paraphonic mode puts out the octaves correctly..
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Texy wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:06 am
Texy wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:39 am
extralifedisco wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 pm
Texy wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:04 pm Hi,
I found someone in a FB group selling a PCB and panel set, so I bought that and ordered the parts I needed to complete the build.
The Royal Mail is somewhat chaotic right now and the parts I ordered from Mouser, all the way from Texas, USA, came before the PCB set. It was then I discovered that the PCB set was the SMT version not the through hole I was expecting. So I need to find a through hole PCB set to go with the TH parts I have. I was hoping that Thonk would stock them, but alas, out of stock. Any plans for Thonk being supplied with just PCB sets any time soon ?
Texy
Hey, I'm not sure if Thonk will continue to stock PCBs - I think they are focusing on kits and full modules but will ask next time I chat with them. I am happy to ship to the UK if you want to order from the web shop here: https://store.extralifeinstruments.com/ ... controller
Thanks - sending you a PM.....
Texy
PCB's (only) ordered.
Texy
The PCBs arrived a couple of days ago 👍
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Re: Super Sixteen build support thread

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bechristophe wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:19 am Hi,

I recently finished a Super Sixteen build I purchased with preprogrammed Atmega. Had some issues with the unit being unable to load and save patches which seems to be fixed after replacing the memory chip, but now I ran into an issue I didn't have before, which is that the unit will not put out any v/oct under 1v . Whenever I turn the Octave encoder to -3 or -4 and the pitch encoder is a 0 or less, the V/oct output will just put out 8v. The same thing happens when I am at -1 and transpose down more than an octave.
I am a bit at a loss as to where I should start to try and solve the problem...

thanks for any help in advance :)

EDIT: Upon further testing, I can add that this issue only refers to the PITCH out. The CV out in paraphonic mode puts out the octaves correctly..
Interesting, I think that can happen if you have a negative calibration value in the first octave (0v) (pitch CV is calculated using 12 bit unsigned integers and wraps back around to 4096 I believe). Enter calibration mode, press step 1, and make sure the value is saved to 0, as the lowest range is usually at 1-10mv anyway.

On firmware 1.2 and later, this 0v adjustment is removed and the first step instead adjusts the scaling at 1v.
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Hi, thanks for the quick reply! I think I am on the latest firmware since I purchased the kit only a month ago. I tried the solution you proposed and unfortunately it did not resolve the issue. What might also be interesting is that the issue only manifested after I had swapped the broken memory chip that wouldnt let me save or load. Before I think it was fine.
Best regards!
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extralifedisco wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 3:54 am
bechristophe wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:19 am Hi,

I recently finished a Super Sixteen build I purchased with preprogrammed Atmega. Had some issues with the unit being unable to load and save patches which seems to be fixed after replacing the memory chip, but now I ran into an issue I didn't have before, which is that the unit will not put out any v/oct under 1v . Whenever I turn the Octave encoder to -3 or -4 and the pitch encoder is a 0 or less, the V/oct output will just put out 8v. The same thing happens when I am at -1 and transpose down more than an octave.
I am a bit at a loss as to where I should start to try and solve the problem...

thanks for any help in advance :)

EDIT: Upon further testing, I can add that this issue only refers to the PITCH out. The CV out in paraphonic mode puts out the octaves correctly..
Interesting, I think that can happen if you have a negative calibration value in the first octave (0v) (pitch CV is calculated using 12 bit unsigned integers and wraps back around to 4096 I believe). Enter calibration mode, press step 1, and make sure the value is saved to 0, as the lowest range is usually at 1-10mv anyway.

On firmware 1.2 and later, this 0v adjustment is removed and the first step instead adjusts the scaling at 1v.
Hi, thanks for the quick reply! I think I am on the latest firmware since I purchased the kit only a month ago. I tried the solution you proposed and unfortunately it did not resolve the issue. What might also be interesting is that the issue only manifested after I had swapped the broken memory chip that wouldnt let me save or load. Before I think it was fine.
Best regards!
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bechristophe wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 5:41 pm
Hi, thanks for the quick reply! I think I am on the latest firmware since I purchased the kit only a month ago. I tried the solution you proposed and unfortunately it did not resolve the issue. What might also be interesting is that the issue only manifested after I had swapped the broken memory chip that wouldnt let me save or load. Before I think it was fine.
Best regards!
That's interesting, I don't think the memory IC would have any way of affecting the pitch output. I think it's likely there's some isssue with bad data in the the EEPROM and the calibration values. My suggestion would be to reload the firmware onto the IC and re-do the calibration process with a multimeter or tuner. This should clear the EEPROM. You can find the latest firmwares here:
https://github.com/matthewcieplak/super ... s/tag/1.2a

You might also try downgrading to firmware 1.1 and seeing if adjusting the zero octave helps:
https://github.com/matthewcieplak/super ... s/tag/1.1a

I've also just compiled a firmware which explicitly ignores the EEPROM value for the first octave, .hex in .zip attached to this post.

If you don't have an Atmega programmer or don't want to deal with using avrdude, I can mail you an updated Atmega328 chip to use (assuming you've socketed the IC). Send me a PM with your address and I'll sort you out.
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Hi! My DIY smd super sixteen, after 2 month perfect work, start do this. When i just turn it on, display information start jumping between all 4 knob (-2 oct, +5ptch, 218 len, 67cv, 218,67,-2,67 ext) very fast, it make very hard to program sequence, motion rec more hard.
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