Ed RAWKS!!!!!!

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:26 pm

[video][/video]

dude · Post by **dude** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:34 pm

wow cool, thanks for posting, was that a burst gen getting those quick bits?

suitandtieguy · Post by **suitandtieguy** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:58 pm

i see the Moon switch module is working.

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:17 pm

Plenty of Moon Modular stuff there. Many of which I am guessing are custom.

Are the "key" changes module-controlled?

Those Moog filters sound great.

-David

sduck · Post by **sduck** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:46 pm

Wow! What a sound!

ed buller · Post by **ed buller** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:57 am

Hi

the key changes are me playing the keyboard. My hands out of shot. The sequencers are being stepped by the custom moon trigger source.

the first row is all odd. ( 1,3,5,7,etc)

the second is ( 1, 13, 17, 27 )

the third is ( 1, 9, 17, 29,30,31 that's the triplet )

the fourth is ( 1, 11, 17 , 21 )

The moon module replaces the drum machines i used to use to do this .

ed

Morley · Post by **Morley** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:08 am

Very cool Ed!

suitandtieguy · Post by **suitandtieguy** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:36 am

ed buller wrote:the key changes are me playing the keyboard.

yay for keyboard-drived sequencer transposition.

XCenter · Post by **XCenter** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:22 am

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Just superb. IÃ‚Â´ll have to finish my trigger sequencer ASAP.

thx for charing, Ed!

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:26 am

ed buller wrote:the key changes are me playing the keyboard. My hands out of shot.

Say it isn't so!

Just kidding. I wasn't sure whether you had relegated that duty to a sequencer module or not. Your sense of timing is good. I could see you rocking just before the switch throws. Nicely done.

I still thought I saw a 554 employed. Is this in use as part of the division of the custom timing modules? Of course I could have been mistaken. I'll watch it for a 10th time.

-David

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:30 am

Also on the 554 I noticed the channel #8 IN hooked up. How doyou have your jumper in back set? Normal or 8 as over-ride?

-David

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:44 am

dude wrote:wow cool, thanks for posting, was that a burst gen getting those quick bits?

I'm going to ASSume is was the root clock from the main clock source being pulsed-in, but it could be a sync'ed oscillator. That is how I do it (the osc).

Since I've gone back to using a midi input to time everything I've noticed the fastest timing I can get through that setup is 1/16th notes. Not so great for doing this type of thing. I still have to rely on a separate oscillator for the "burst" pulses.

Now according to Ed he has some custom modules to divide down from (here I assume again) either a normal oscillator or a special clocking module. So he may very well be starting of in a very fast 1/64th or 1/128th note range for the root clock. He said he was dividing into some very strange divisions for triplets and such so it would make sense he was starting off at a blistering rate.

I'm no expert in the drum machine realm but some of the machines used 24ppq and some used 48ppq. at the latter rate that is something like 192nd note timings (if I can multiply correctly). That could be where his custom clock is starting. Whoa!

I'm sure he'll be along in a few hours to straighten us all out on the method. Very intriguing to me.

-David

EMP3 · Post by **EMP3** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:08 am

Oops didn't notice this, posted on orig thread too.

The other track on there is great too, evolvement.

How close does this sound to classic Baumann?!

[video][/video]

ed buller · Post by **ed buller** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:18 am

Basically i take midi from pro tools and plug it into the MOON 553. This spits out a fast pulse at 1/96 into the MOON 554. The eighth input is used as a master reset.

The MOON 554 feeds the input's of the secret module. Those outputs feed the 569.

In the old days i used these:

Then switched to the Simmons SDS6.

Now I have Moon.

e

EMP3 · Post by **EMP3** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:42 am

Interview with Ed & Dave Bessell here...

http://www.sonicimmersion.org/interview ... view=90903

essex sound lab · Post by **essex sound lab** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:11 am

Wow, I'm off the grid for less than 24 hours and look at all the goodness I missed.

Heaven!

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:22 am

ed buller wrote:Basically i take midi from pro tools and plug it into the MOON 553. This spits out a fast pulse at 1/96 into the MOON 554. The eighth input is used as a master reset.

The MOON 554 feeds the input's of the secret module. Those outputs feed the 569.

Sounds familiar. I do the same with Cubase and the 553/554.

I'm assuming (again) that either the pulse out from a Pro Tools track is faster than the standard midi clock or you have the BPM up on Pro Tools to some hauling-ass rate. For instance, at 120 BPM the best I get out of the 553 is 1/32nd (I think).

I've been working on a demo video of this combination along with the STG Soundlabs sequencer modules. Unfortunately the music sucks and the video is even worse. Regardless, I'll still keep up my lousy standards and post it sometime in the next few days just so someone can see how to synchronize a STG sequencer with midi and the Moon modules.

This method is in a state of flux actually. Suit is putting together a midi driven Time Buffer for the STG suite so I may soon be able to eliminate some other switching modules to get direct midi control of the sequencer suite from STG. Of course I can't claim a "secret device", which is way cool like James Bond and Q or something. 8_)

-David

ed buller · Post by **ed buller** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:48 am

kindredlost wrote: I'm assuming (again) that either the pulse out from a Pro Tools track is faster than the standard midi clock or you have the BPM up on Pro Tools to some hauling-ass rate. For instance, at 120 BPM the best I get out of the 553 is 1/32nd (I think).

The Pro tools Midi Beat clock is standard. When It comes out at 120 BPM ( this tracks speed i think ) the moon 553 see's it as a very fast pulse . I use the 554 to divide it down. The speed i send the secret weapon on this one is divided down by three. What that means is a need all odd steps to get 8 notes.

e

VinceL · Post by **VinceL** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:20 am

ed buller wrote:The MOON 554 feeds the input's of the secret module.

I have a 554, 563 and 569. It sounds like the "secret module" might be something I would be very interested in. When will we get to learn more about the "secret module?"

Gert?

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:36 am

Thanks for all the tips Ed.

I was pushing it so far and you are a real sport to keep us tutored. I'll sit back and enjoy the show now. There are ten ways to skin a Wiggler and your method is very clever. Thanks for sharing the details with us.

-David

ed buller · Post by **ed buller** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:44 am

VinceL wrote:
ed buller wrote:The MOON 554 feeds the input's of the secret module.
I have a 554, 563 and 569. It sounds like the "secret module" might be something I would be very interested in. When will we get to learn more about the "secret module?"

Gert?

Gert will launch it soon i'm sure. He is just mindful of rushing things as it's bit him in the past. It's a lot of logic and flashing lights. I'm on my second one but this ones solid. So......maybe soon......................I'm quite sure it will up the game somewhat.

e

voicetospirit · Post by **voicetospirit** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:52 pm

That was awesome. Those fast rolls are really cool.

synthguru · Post by **synthguru** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:46 pm

That was really nice to hear.
It reminded me of some early Michael Hoenig synth work.

Zon

synthnut · Post by **synthnut** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:52 pm

Hi Ed,
Great to hear those Baumannesque sequences flowing from your system!
I'm so glad there are still some folk committed to doing things like this with engineering and not just a bit of software, mad as it might be in this day and age. You can't quite compare the interaction with this to clicking a mouse.
Why do something the "easy pc way" when you can do it with modules, that's just missing the point!
I definitely think you've captured the spirit of that Projekt, no doubt. Now we just need you to do another live concert....!
I really hope that you find this to be a creative muse and that it lives up to your expectations, you've certainly put in a lot of commitment in more ways than one to this project (or should is say Projekt). I know this has been a long time in the brewing, the seeds were planted many years back were they not?! It's a refreshing pleasure to have seen these materialise. The world of modular synths has never been all that mainstream and one can feel a bit out on a limb sometimes, so it's nice to know there are some lifting it's profile from the realms of the mad professor image.
Looking forward to more...

Regards,
Ben
www.bigbluewave.co.uk

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