pitch-gate pairs using ESX-8CV and ESX-8GT

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pitch-gate pairs using ESX-8CV and ESX-8GT

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Hi, I'm attempting to recreate the setup for ES40/ESXCV/ESX8GT in this demo video https://vimeo.com/85231630
That demo setup is a bit hard to follow because (i) the tracks are not expanded enough to show all the routing (ii) the output and hardware configurations on the voice controllers are not shown and (iii) the "aux" tracks aren't mentioned. In any case, I can't get it to work like that.
I can get correct, linked pitch and gate signals in the top three socket outputs of the 8CV and the 8GT hardware, and the lights flash as they should, using my own jury-rigged setup, but I don't know how to add additional pitch/gate pairs. Ideally I'd like 8 pairs. Is that possible?
My configuration doesn't match the Ableton configuration in the demo but it basically works.
In the screenshot below you can see the stereo signal in all tracks while 3 midi clips are playing. I have not changed the Voice Controller outputs from their "default" settings (doing so seems to interfere with pitch/gate).

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In each instance of the Voice Controller software, I have "none" selected for hardware and ES4 as the target for the ESX 8CV combiner.
When I select ES4 or ESX8CV as the hardware the sound loses pitch or has inaccurate pitch. I did the ESX 8CV calibration and it worked, even though "none" is selected for the hardware.
In the Inputs of the ESX8CV combiner I chose 1, 3, and 7 as shown below (corresponding with "track in," 3/4 and 7/8 in the "Audio To" slots of VC tracks 1, 2, and 3):

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And for gates I chose 3, 5, and 7 for my gate assignments. (The ESX-8CV is attached to Header 4 of the ES-40 and the ESX-8GT to Header 5.)
Again, this works, but I don't know why. I confess after reading all the documentation I can scrounge up, I still don't have a good handle on how the ESX8CV combiner works. Any assistance in explaining what I am doing wrong (or right for the wrong reasons) would be greatly appreciated.
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Rather than write a big long post I figured it would be quicker just to make an 8-voice setup for you, which is attached.
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Thank you very much! This works perfectly. I will study your settings and may have a follow-up question or two, if that's OK. (One thing I immediately noticed was I had the order of the ES40 plugins reversed. I was working from a template someone posted here, in my own pitiful defense.)
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Re: pitch-gate pairs using ESX-8CV and ESX-8GT

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Is it possible to achieve this same configuration using an es-3, es-5, and es-8cv?

Edit: it actually doesn't matter about the es-5, I have an es-8cv and an es-8gt I can connect to my es-3.
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Yes.
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I found this two voice setup. You should be able to adapt it.
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Most likely my project used AUs and you only have VSTs?

You don't want to put the Voice Controller in a hardware mode. In these setups the hardware encoding is handled by the ES-5 Controller/ESX-8CV Combiner, so the VC's output just needs to be regular audio.
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Here's the same project as above converted to use VSTs.
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