Sequencer with multiple independent clock inputs ?

[Jaypee]

I'd like to combine several swing/shifting clocks etc from the PWN

Doepfer 157 could have been my dream trigger sequencer, simple & funky, but there is no development. Which is a big shame. :(

Imagine 4 sequences of 32 steps with 4 different grooves... .

But it's not possible

Is there any sequencer like this?

[Hi5]

Are you looking for gates or variable voltage?
TipTop Z8000 has multiple clocks for each seq in it. Trigger Riot doesn't have multiple clock inputs but the division options and probability function gets a similar effect.

[VZvision]

Another approach to this may be to look at sequencers with multiple CV and gate outputs where each step of each sequence can be programmed to have a different duration or note length (not to be confused with variable gate-length)...i.e. one sequence doing 4 quarter notes/bar, another doing eighth note triplets, another with a combination of both, etc.

Modcan touch sequencer, ER-101, Five12's upcoming vector sequencer and NerdSeq's tracker sequencer come to mind...all have very different operation though so best check the workflows...

Hope that helps.

[Hovercraft]

FLXS1 will be able to accept clocks for each of its four channels. However, the firmware is still in beta, and that feature has yet to be added. Tenkai is making good progress though--and following through on the list of planned features--no reason to think this won't happen. The module already has four gate inputs. It was a big reason I got the FLXS1.

[evileye0702]

KOMA Komplex?

[Jaypee]

Are you looking for gates or variable voltage?
TipTop Z8000 has multiple clocks for each seq in it. Trigger Riot doesn't have multiple clock inputs but the division options and probability function gets a similar effect.

Looking for a trigger/gate sequencer clocked by a Pamela New Workout.

Another approach to this may be to look at sequencers with multiple CV and gate outputs where each step of each sequence can be programmed to have a different duration or note length (not to be confused with variable gate-length)...i.e. one sequence doing 4 quarter notes/bar, another doing eighth note triplets, another with a combination of both, etc.

Hope that helps.

I'm not interested in a sequencer that can multiply or divide 1 clock.
Just need several clock inputs to have several tracks running at different timing.

Modcan touch sequencer, ER-101, Five12's upcoming vector sequencer and NerdSeq's tracker sequencer come to mind...all have very different operation though so best check the workflows...

Yes I had an ER 101. Really powerful sequencer! It could do the trick even if it can't be clocked by multiple clocks. (well I never had ER 102 though, so maybe it works). But the way ER 101 deals with steps etc...yeah it could work, but I want something simpler. That's why I sold it... :(

FLXS1 will be able to accept clocks for each of its four channels. However, the firmware is still in beta, and that feature has yet to be added. Tenkai is making good progress though--and following through on the list of planned features--no reason to think this won't happen. The module already has four gate inputs. It was a big reason I got the FLXS1.

Ah yes! I forgot about this feature on the FLXS1!
Well, will wait then!

Any others?

This Deeper is so cheap, it would be perfect for what I want!

[Parnelli]

The Z8000 has 4x4 vert, 4x4 horiz, 1x16 vert and 1x16 horiz, and each has it's own clock/reverse/reset input, so it wouldn't quite fit the bill of 4x32, but it will do the job on a smaller scale fer sure.

I do modulate the one clock input on the Trigger Riot with the 4ms multiplier/breakout which does some funky things to the divisions, but that's only one modulated clock. I have been messing with this idea for a while, which is why I purchased the clock multiplier/breakout, but it's complicated.

I think at the end of the day though I am able to modulate a clock signal I want to be able to CV modulate the clock time itself, and I can sort of do this with some success with the Wogglebug, but I'd like more definitive control over the timing.

Funny, because nearly everything I do is random, and still I need more control?

[freqout]

I recently added a feature to the Monome Ansible firmware to allow each track in Kria to be clocked manually from Teletype. You could send 4 independent triggers to Teletype and each one could clock a Kria track.

[Sandrine]

Couldn't you just use maths to do that? Or 4 sequencers? Or am I barking up the wrong tree...

[cptnal]

Like Sandrine I think I'm missing the point, because it strikes me that this exactly a situation for VC switches, logic, clock modulators, etc... A few simple utilities should do the job, rather than trying to find one catch-all module that might have some features but not others.

[flashheart]

Does sound like a job for 4 simpler sequencers...

[Jaypee]

I love the way PNW can let you create very personal clocks. I just want to combine several swing/grooves coming from PNW.
I want different swing/shuffles running in parallel
Multiple clocks AT THE SAME TIME on MULTIPLE TRACKS.

Does sound like a job for 4 simpler sequencers...

Yeah. Or even better, 1 sequencer with 4 clock inputs

Doepfer hope you read this!

[kay_k]

Does sound like a job for 4 simpler sequencers...

that !

[guestt]

I recently added a feature to the Monome Ansible firmware to allow each track in Kria to be clocked manually from Teletype. You could send 4 independent triggers to Teletype and each one could clock a Kria track.

Just to confirm that this is pure awesomeness! Thank you for your efforts - very much appreciated here!!

[Jaypee]

Does sound like a job for 4 simpler sequencers...

that !

yeah why not, the MFB SEQ-01 PRO is cheap.

And I forgot to say that, obviously, I need a sequencer that acts like René, for each clock receive, it will advance of one step.

[batch]

Each channel of the ER101 can run off different multiplications and divisions of the same clock.

For example if you have a clock going in you can set channel 1 to be 3/2 and channel 2 to be 1/1, or 34/73 - whatever you like. It’s insanely flexible.

AND the working model is not per step, you can make any step any duration of whatever of the clock is. So Step 1 can be a duration of 4 and step 5 - duration of 7. Assuming channel 1 above is used then step 1 would 4 x 3/2 of whatever clock you are feeding it.

Make sense?

The ER101 is by far the most flexible sequencer, through FLXS1 is also super powerful.

[MvK]

4xladik s-180

[Jaypee]

Each channel of the ER101 can run off different multiplications and divisions of the same clock.

For example if you have a clock going in you can set channel 1 to be 3/2 and channel 2 to be 1/1, or 34/73 - whatever you like. It’s insanely flexible.

AND the working model is not per step, you can make any step any duration of whatever of the clock is. So Step 1 can be a duration of 4 and step 5 - duration of 7. Assuming channel 1 above is used then step 1 would 4 x 3/2 of whatever clock you are feeding it.

Make sense?

The ER101 is by far the most flexible sequencer, through FLXS1 is also super powerful.

Yeah I know . I had 1. But it's not what I'm looking for.

4xladik s-180

Ah yes. Why not!
I was eyeing the Variatic Sequent
Noise Engineering ...even more powerful with the expander!!!

thanks!

[ersatzplanet]

Does sound like a job for 4 simpler sequencers...

Beat me to it. I have 2 Division6 Dual Mini sequencers, four 16-step sequencers total and it could easily do what the OP wanted. They are cheap if you make them yourselves too. You could easily make four of them for the price of the Doepfer sequencer, they only cost $90 in kit form for a dual sequencer. That would be EIGHT 16-step sequencers.

Each sequencer also has a accent track that can be programmed separately from the main step sequence, with programmable rest on both, so each Dual Mini can give you four programmable gate streams (two synch'd pairs) each.

They remember setting over a power cycle too.

[Jaypee]

Does sound like a job for 4 simpler sequencers...

Beat me to it. I have 2 Division6 Dual Mini sequencers, four 16-step sequencers total and it could easily do what the OP wanted. They are cheap if you make them yourselves too. You could easily make four of them for the price of the Doepfer sequencer, they only cost $90 in kit form for a dual sequencer. That would be EIGHT 16-step sequencers.

Each sequencer also has a accent track that can be programmed separately from the main step sequence, with programmable rest on both, so each Dual Mini can give you four programmable gate streams (two synch'd pairs) each.

They remember setting over a power cycle too.

Thanks a lot!!!!




edit: I don't see reset input...but I assume the XP IN '(Expansion input; Starts sequencer back at step 1. Use for daisy-chaining multiple units)' is the same as a standard 'reset input' ?

[ersatzplanet]

edit: I don't see reset input...but I assume the XP IN '(Expansion input; Starts sequencer back at step 1. Use for daisy-chaining multiple units)' is the same as a standard 'reset input' ?

Yes, The XP in is setup to do the reset. The XP out produces a trigger on the exiting of the last step and can be used to chain sequencer together by patching XP out to XP in of another sequencer and that sequencers XP out back to the first. This can be done with more than one sequencer set to if you want really long sequences.

Also another hidden feature is that it does have a internal clock, although a somewhat crude one. If no signs are plugged into the clock in it will run off a internal clock that can be adjusted via STEP buttons. The top sequencers' clock is normal into the bottom sequencer when external clocks are used, but is not when internal clocks are.

A great little unit and very skiff friendly.

[22tape]

NLC’s 8-bit Cipher is stupid fun with 4 clock inputs. Their Bindubba looks great too with 2 clock inputs.

[Jaypee]

Thanks James!

NLC’s 8-bit Cipher is stupid fun with 4 clock inputs. Their Bindubba looks great too with 2 clock inputs.

But, the 2 clock inputs work like René, one for the X one for the Y...?

[22tape]

Thanks James!

NLC’s 8-bit Cipher is stupid fun with 4 clock inputs. Their Bindubba looks great too with 2 clock inputs.

But, the 2 clock inputs work like René, one for the X one for the Y...?

I haven’t used either, but yeah it looks like clocks go to X and Y. There’s also 4 inputs for directions and jumps.

[dbeats]

4x32 with different clocks each could be done with 2 O&C in Sequins mode, I think, even 4x64 trigger plus cv.
A bit over the top for my taste though - I would probably go with one single Z8000 plus variations/random.