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yamaha a3000 effects any good

Post by studio1dk » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:42 pm

I have an old Yamaha A3000 sampler and would like to use it as an external effects processor. Are the effects any good - compared to hardware?? I'm thinking of buying a FMR rnla - but if the yamaha can do the compressor trick that would be faboulous.

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Post by splonge » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:36 pm

I had one years ago, IIRC the distortion is amazing. I used to use single loop waveforms to make basic oscillators and the filter with high resonance going into distortion was fantastic.

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Post by sutekina bipu-on » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:13 pm

I never had a 3000 but i've had 4000 and 5000s. The effects aren't bad at all but i wouldn't get one FOR the effects.

Yamaha typically does way better with digital compressor FX than most other companies especially back when these were released so you might actually do well to use it for that. try it and see and if it sucks sell the 3000 and get a MX400.

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Post by stikygum » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:12 pm

FX are good, but if you actually want to use the sampling, load times are a nightmare. And that's moreso than comparable SCSI units of it's decade. Could easily take up to 5 minutes to load crap.

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Post by studio1dk » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:20 am

Thanks all. I'll just have a go and see what happens. I use a cd-rom drive to load the samples - and yes the 3.5" drive is sloooooow

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Post by studio1dk » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:20 am

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Post by hardwarecore » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:04 pm

I think the A3000 has the same effects as the SU-700 and, if that's the case, I would recommend it. It's a very subjective thing, but I loved the reverb on the SU, as well as the distortion.

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Post by stikygum » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:49 pm

studio1dk wrote:Thanks all. I'll just have a go and see what happens.
That's really the only way you'll know if it's for you. Good luck and have fun with your new fx.

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Post by mycoST » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:58 pm

I like the reverbs, but I don't think they are for everyone. Some of the verbs I would describe as pretty metallic, so if you are on the lookout for reverbs check out some demos on youtube. The canyon reverb is pretty unique, have not seen any reverb of that kind anywhere else, but yeah, they may be out there on other gear.

The flanger and chorus effects are usable, not particularly exciting, but the celeste preset is one I like and use from time to time.

Where the Yamaha A-line shines is when you are using it as an external filter. A lot of filtering options with LP + HP for example, in addition to effects or even another LP/BP/HP filter if you are crazy.

Note: I have an A4000 so I may be talking about some effects that are only on A4K/A5K.

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Post by Ranxerox » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:46 am

stikygum wrote:FX are good, but if you actually want to use the sampling, load times are a nightmare. And that's moreso than comparable SCSI units of it's decade. Could easily take up to 5 minutes to load crap.
On the a4000 the load times are faster from the internal hd, but yeah still pretty long. I bought mine to use as a cheap and interesting FX box, but have ended up using it as a regular sampler all the time.

The only thing I wish it had (apart from a bulk wave import option and faster load times) are regular cut/copy/paste features in sample edit mode... I mean, wth Yamaha!

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Post by joey » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:41 am

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A3000 effecting some drums here

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Post by pricklyrobot » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:00 am

johnalam8806 wrote:I read your thread and I understand you are interested in to buy ld Yamaha A3000 sampler and would like to use it as an external effects processor. I have no such experience on this I only help to suggest a good blanket company that is avianoblankets otherwise I cannot help you sorry to say.
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Worst thing you can do is to get a fancy fx unit and then leave it shivering at night. Get this thing a nice down comforter, or have your grandma knit it something!

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johnalam8806 wrote:I read your thread and I understand you are interested in to buy ld Yamaha A3000 sampler and would like to use it as an external effects processor. I have no such experience on this I only help to suggest a good blanket company that is avianoblankets otherwise I cannot help you sorry to say.
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It'll definitely make your effects warmer.

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johnalam8806 wrote:I read your thread and I understand you are interested in to buy ld Yamaha A3000 sampler and would like to use it as an external effects processor. I have no such experience on this I only help to suggest a good blanket company that is avianoblankets otherwise I cannot help you sorry to say.
I think what the gentleman is trying to say is that we’ve covered this already.

The Ax000 series has great effects and a solid midi implementation. Bonus: you already own one.

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Post by pettycash » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:03 am

I have just rediscovered mine and have to say it’s fantastic.
The trick is to dial back the parameters on the effects as lots of the presets i.e beat change/Tech mod etc are quite extreme.
Once you have a more tamed setting go over to the matrix page where you start applying modulation followed by additional modulation to that modulator in play/control pages
I have managed to coax out some lovely pads and SFX just using the internal waveforms, lots of fun. be wary of those knob control!- Managed to get a new board a few years back from Yamaha UK but they are now discontinued so being very careful with them.

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Post by sutekina bipu-on » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:45 am

I friggin wish i had a a3000 still, i used to have one and three a4000s i got all for free cause they were about to get thrown out if not. Ughhhh still kick myself all the time for not holding onto the 3000 specifically. Honestly i know the 4000 is better in basically every way - and i wish i still had the 4000! - but the 3000 has a softer edge to it whereas the 4000 is more of a hi-fi sound. It's like a sp 303 vs a sp 404.

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Post by joey » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:44 am



showing off the A3000 effects with Model Cycles

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Post by Jee » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:56 am

A3000 was my second music gear purchase 2 decades ago after I get a MC-303.
I loved it and loved the FX section especially but also it stretch algorithm that was very good for the time but not as good as what we do today and we could get into wild territories with it.
I also kind of regret selling it but more for nostalgy I would say. The quote was starting to drop and the encoders were already horrible a few years after purchase (new) + load time... I felt that encoders would break soon. I could sell it for half its new price at the time (maybe around 600€ if I rem well) which was kind of OK in light of "saving what can be saved".
Now I do sampling stuff with UVI Falcon and I cannot say I really regret the A3000 for sampling application :lol:
But definitely, this FX section is great.

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Re: yamaha a3000 effects any good

Post by gruebleengourd » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:00 am

I've bought and sold 2 A3000 (one brand new and the most money I ever spent on anything for the next 20 years or so lol) Also have bought and sold an A4000 and A5000.
I think the most sensible use of these tbh is an a3000 with a floppy emulator. Stick to short samples and let the synth engine do the work. Use Bzone to edit it. I never had trouble with the encoders and I like the power and the effects, but I always got tired of the lags in the UI when changing menus.
Sample load times are atrocious for anything more than a floppy's worth. I'll take an S1000 into a mixer with efx on the aux anyday of the week.
The A series specific efx algorithms are pretty gimmicky, and you can get a rev500 or spx2000 for yamaha flavor not to much these days.

I still have an SU700 and that guy is far more pleasurable to use IMO, but because it seems more responsive, and it guides you into an interesting production paradigm.

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