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4-output Quantizer

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Hey everybody,

I'm wondering if there is anything like the Toppobrillo Quantimator quantizer that has 4 outputs. The Quantimator was near-perfect for my intended use, but it lacks a desperately needed 4th output. Intended use is obviously chords.

Any thoughts or recommendations? Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I'm also looking for four CV Inputs.
- Quantimator has only one input
- Chord Machine only has one input
- O&C (currently) only has one input
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The Addac 207 has 4 quantizing channels. Ornament & Crime also has a quantizing mode with 4 channels.
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poppinger wrote:The Addac 207 has 4 quantizing channels.
Nice suggestion. Thanks!

I just discovered Flame's Chord Machine has 4 outputs as well. Does anyone know if Flame's panels are that darker type of aluminum finish?
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poppinger wrote:Ornament & Crime also has a quantizing mode with 4 channels.
The O&C is still DIY only though, right?
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The Illuminaire wrote:
poppinger wrote:Ornament & Crime also has a quantizing mode with 4 channels.
The O&C is still DIY only though, right?
Yes. As far as I know.

Although the other day I read an article about the module that mentioned it may be available pre-assembed somewhere. Can't tell you where, though.

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The Illuminaire wrote:
poppinger wrote:Ornament & Crime also has a quantizing mode with 4 channels.
The O&C is still DIY only though, right?
It looks like you are in continent US (VA is Virginia, isn't it?). There is at least one trusted builder in the US who is familiar with O&C (he's built quite a few) and who does really excellent work, and has a high precision bench multimeter required to accurately calibrate O&C (O&C is capable of about +/- 0.2mV quantiser precision across its 9 octave range - that's well under 1 cent of pitch error, and probably much better than the V/octave tracking of your VCOs in any case). I'll PM you with his details.

Apart from a quad channel quantiser, O&C has several other apps (modes) which may be of interest, including a neo-Riemannian triad transformation app (similar to the Noise Engineering Tonnetz Sequent module), a novel vector sequencer which builds on the neo-Riemannian stuff, and a digital version of an analogue shift register for arabesques and canons. And a whole lot of other apps, besides.

The main O&C thread is at viewtopic.php?t=160325 and documentation for the firmware is at https://github.com/mxmxmx/O_C/wiki/Orna ... d-firmware
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O +c is amazing. Have my second one arriving tomorrow. Full of wow! Quantize the planet!
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Are you looking to separately quantise four independent CV inputs to four corresponding outputs?

Or create a four-voice chord from a single CV input?

I thought you meant the first until you mentioned the Quantimator. The Quantimator only quantises one CV of course.
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Jumbuktu wrote:Are you looking to separately quantise four independent CV inputs to four corresponding outputs?

Or create a four-voice chord from a single CV input?

I thought you meant the first until you mentioned the Quantimator. The Quantimator only quantises one CV of course.
Ah, I may have misunderstood too. O&C certainly does 4 independent quantisers, and it certainly does the analogue shift register behaviour of the Quantimator when in "scale mode". It can also be set up to generate 4-note chords from a single CV input, like the Quantimator does. However, it doesn't currently have any voltage control over those chords, but then neither does the Quantimator, as far as I can see. But such VC over chords would seem to be quite feasible - I'll add it to the O&C to-do list. The Harrington 1200 app in O&C is somewhat similar to this, but for triads, and focuses on triggered chord transformations, not specific chord progressions, nor on something like the WTx4 chordal oscillator model in MI Braids. It isn't crystal clear exactly what method or paradigm of chord control or modulation would be most useful (there's probably no right answer to that).
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There's also a Barton module that does chords, the Rando Chordo.

Timmy, you're on every thread! I'm persuaded to buy a O&C by now :hihi:
Are all the apps available at the same time or does one have to install them each time?
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All at the same time. You hold encoder 2 down to open the app menu.
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Paranormal Patroler wrote:There's also a Barton module that does chords, the Rando Chordo.

Timmy, you're on every thread! I'm persuaded to buy a O&C by now :hihi:
Excellent, and you'll be pleased to know that the 2 euro profit made on each PCB sale, if you buy an "official" PCB from Max, is re-invested in R&D. Either that, or an ice cream.
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Are all the apps available at the same time or does one have to install them each time?
Only one app can run at a time, but they are switchable on-the-fly as Matos describes above, without having to reboot the module or upload anything, and the settings for all the apps are stored, so you don't have to reconfigure each one every time you switch apps.
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Timmy wrote:
Paranormal Patroler wrote:There's also a Barton module that does chords, the Rando Chordo.

Timmy, you're on every thread! I'm persuaded to buy a O&C by now :hihi:
Excellent, and you'll be pleased to know that the 2 euro profit made on each PCB sale, if you buy an "official" PCB from Max, is re-invested in R&D. Either that, or an ice cream.
Paranormal Patroler wrote:
Are all the apps available at the same time or does one have to install them each time?
Only one app can run at a time, but they are switchable on-the-fly as Matos describes above, without having to reboot the module or upload anything, and the settings for all the apps are stored, so you don't have to reconfigure each one every time you switch apps.
I still have one of Max's PCB from the other module he makes and I haven't found the time to source it. I think I'll go for a complete module this time around as my time is limited (I barely have time to wiggle these days). Any trusted EU builders ?

To avoid hijacking the thread completely, one other option for quantization (albeit unorthodox) would be to get two uScale modules or two Dual Barton Quantizers. Especially since the uScale is 4hp (v1) and CV controllable you can really do crazy stuff in terms of what the quantizer offers. In regards to the OP's request for an ASR I have to point out that the best module out there for this purpose is the DSR from Synthesis Technology, the E102. I know that a single module doing everything is the preferred option here; to this end let me point out that the E102 also quantizes but in semitones only. Still, it's the most interesting Shift Register I've come across and I did own the Quantimator since it first came out.
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Jumbuktu wrote:Are you looking to separately quantise four independent CV inputs to four corresponding outputs?

Or create a four-voice chord from a single CV input?

I thought you meant the first until you mentioned the Quantimator. The Quantimator only quantises one CV of course.
That was an error on my behalf.

The Quantimator was *almost* everything, short of only having three outputs AND only one input. So to answer your question, I'm looking four inputs and outputs. While I can see the use in the single input, it isn't exactly what I'm looking as of current.

I'm going to research the O&C as it sounds like it is much more than what I had originally assessed, hoping to find a state-side builder that can assemble one for me.

Thanks for all the input thus far, guys!
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Good info here to compare. Next module on my list was an Addac 207.
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pigeonfarmboy wrote:Good info here to compare. Next module on my list was an Addac 207.
Had the ADDAC 207 but it was a buggy little thing and ended up returning it. There are a couple of extensive threads on usage on the ADDAC forum page here on Muffwiggler. I too was intrigued by the 4 outputs which led me to purchase but just felt like I was constantly fighting the thing to get anything useful out of it.
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