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What's the best sounding software vocoder?

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I've been using a EH Iron Lung guitar pedal for vocoding duties in the past but now I'm transitioning to using my laptop live for other things, might as well move the vocoder in the box as well.

What is the best sounding software vocoder? I want something pretty classic sounding but also intelligible enough to convey lyrics.

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Full disclosure: I wrote the following software. But it's open-source, so don't feel too bad about it.

I really like the AMS FFT vocoder. Why?

1) user-controlled (and voltage-controlled) number of channels.

2) CVable pitch shift built in.

3) CVable frequency shift (a.k.a. "Bode" shift) built in.

4) User-controlled FFT windowing function

5) User-controlled channel attack time and release time

6) ... and it's free and open source.

Oh, and it sounds really good too. Very intelligible, especially if you give it a broadband input carrier with plenty of energy
all across the band.

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The two I like are

TAL Vocoder II
Free, 11 bands, internal carrier (though I rarely use those), very good sounding overall
Downside is that it's picky about certain OS X releases (you didn't specify platform at all...)

The second isn't really a vocoder in the traditional sense but the results are similar:
Zynaptiq Morph
It's actually more than a vocoder in that in addition to their morph algo (which is what gets vocoder-esque results) there's a crossfader too. Super fast to dial in and makes it really, really easy to fine tune intelligibility.

wsy:
I looked for AMS FFT Vocoder on Google and got a number of weird results but none of them seemed to be your vocoder. What kind of vocoder is this (plugin, standalone)? Got a link?
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ngarjuna wrote:wsy:
I looked for AMS FFT Vocoder on Google and got a number of weird results but none of them seemed to be your vocoder. What kind of vocoder is this (plugin, standalone)? Got a link?
this: http://alsamodular.sourceforge.net/ ?
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I believe DJ Food uses the earlier version and it sounds sweet

https://www.xils-lab.com/pages/XILS%205000.html


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Melda MVoder is very good, but I've come to really dislike their UI's.
iZotope just released VocalSynth, I like it a lot. Has some great sub modules.
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MATRIX from VirSyn is really great but I won't vouch for your opinion on the intelligibility of it.

http://www.virsyn.de/en/E_Products/E_MA ... atrix.html

FWIW, Kraftwerk uses it.
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Madrona Labs' Virta does some pretty amazing sounding vocoding. I also feel Image Line's Vocodex and the Nord Modular's vocoder sound particularly good.
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Grumble wrote:
ngarjuna wrote:wsy:
I looked for AMS FFT Vocoder on Google and got a number of weird results but none of them seemed to be your vocoder. What kind of vocoder is this (plugin, standalone)? Got a link?
this: http://alsamodular.sourceforge.net/ ?
Yes, but don't download it from there (LOTS of dependencies, including FFTW).

It's much easier to download it via whatever package manager you have.

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Post by stk »

I still use the old Prosoniq Orange Vocoder. A few years ago when I put it alongside a handful of other plugins it was still -to my ears - the smoothest and most intelligible.

I haven't compared it to the most recent crop of vocoders.
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Post by Astrolabe23 »

I Am also a fan of orange vocoder. I use either the orange vocoder plugin when in the box or a Roland v-synth with the vc-2 vocoder card when in the hardware realm.
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In my humble opinion, the best sounding software vocoder is MATRIX. I think it's machine simple to use and seems to me durable. You can listen here http://bigpaperwriter.com/blog/the-problem-of-macbeth , some of my works, sounds really amazing.
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Wow, spambots who are into vocoders, will wonders never cease?

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Post by Iridite »

Check out Waldorf's Lector - it's all kind of crazy when it comes to processing vocals!

http://www.waldorf-music.info/en/lector-overview
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wsy wrote:Full disclosure: I wrote the following software. But it's open-source, so don't feel too bad about it.

I really like the AMS FFT vocoder. Why?

1) user-controlled (and voltage-controlled) number of channels.

2) CVable pitch shift built in.

3) CVable frequency shift (a.k.a. "Bode" shift) built in.

4) User-controlled FFT windowing function

5) User-controlled channel attack time and release time

6) ... and it's free and open source.

Oh, and it sounds really good too. Very intelligible, especially if you give it a broadband input carrier with plenty of energy
all across the band.

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Link? Work for Mac?
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ben_hex wrote:
wsy wrote:Full disclosure: I wrote the following software. But it's open-source, so don't feel too bad about it.

I really like the AMS FFT vocoder. Why?

1) user-controlled (and voltage-controlled) number of channels.

2) CVable pitch shift built in.

3) CVable frequency shift (a.k.a. "Bode" shift) built in.

4) User-controlled FFT windowing function

5) User-controlled channel attack time and release time

6) ... and it's free and open source.

Oh, and it sounds really good too. Very intelligible, especially if you give it a broadband input carrier with plenty of energy
all across the band.

- Bill
Link? Work for Mac?
Link: http://http://alsamodular.sourceforge.net (then go to downloads)

Mac package? Unknown; I am not up on Mac package managers or sites!

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cheers wsy
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Xils V+!
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etantloh wrote:Xils V+!
I want to demo this but ableton does not recognize the vst on my pc laptop.
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Post by Notron fn »

I've got matrix, eiosis, the xils lab vocoders, tal, razor, the mouth and the built ins from logic and ableton -- but I just picked up a license for Melda's morpher MMorph and I'm loving what it does. Seems to make for very articulate vocals with various textures.
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