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Dead Mungo modules?

Post by richard » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:23 pm

I wonder if anyone has had problems with Mungo modules mysteriously dying on them? I have had it twice now (D0 both times) which is making me nervous. Has anyone else had this kind of problem?

EDIT: To be clear: by "dead" I mean totally and permanently not working anymore
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Post by listentoaheartbeat » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:07 pm

Can you elaborate? What do you mean by dying, a temporary issue or a permanent one? It's easy to make the d0 cut out by adding too much feedback, maybe it's that?

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Post by richard » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:13 pm

Yes. I should be clearer. I mean electrically dead. Totally fucked. RIP.
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Post by companyofquail » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:26 pm

this is def not normal, i have had over 200hp of mungo and never killed on myself. although i have known a couple of people to do it. i would check your power supply and also pay close attention to plugging other modules in.

in both cases that people have had their mungos go down it was a simple replacement of the power regulator.
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Post by Dstone » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:32 pm

This happened to my g0. Just shut off. Mungo said it was static damage and $300 to repair. I've had no issues with any of my other digital modules including a d0. Frankly I was a bit miffed and haven't sent it for repair yet.. Glad to see I'm not alone.

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Post by waveglider » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:49 pm

Wow $300 for a repair?? That's harsh. Every other manufacturer usually fixes power related issues for a lot less or free.

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Post by taylor12k » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:45 pm

I fried my g0 in a power issue (my fault).

john said it needed an entire board replacement and charged me $300

$$$$ but I wasn't about to let an $800 module sit dead, so I sent it in.

he fixed it and turned it around very quickly. from AU to NY

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Post by Malekko » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:55 pm

I had a new g0 up and die for no reason, he tried to blame anyone and everything but his module, and tried to charge 300 for a repair.
Since then i've seen quite an alarming number of people in the same boat.
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Post by richard » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:57 pm

I also paid $300 (Australian) for a board replacement for my D0. Apparently it was totally burned out. Not just the power regulator. I put it down to random bad luck but I still have no real idea how it happened - John suggested a power spike. But if so, no other modules were affected.

The replacement has lasted only a few a hours (in a different case, different PSU) before something similar has happened. Again, I have no idea why but I observe that all other modules in the case are fine, including the G0.

I have been using modular stuff for ten years and have not known anything like this. I find this pretty weird to say the least.
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Post by waveglider » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:07 pm

For modules that cost so much money to begin with, you'd think there would be better protection circuitry against inadvertent mis-plugging or "power spikes"

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Post by L.C.O. » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:13 pm

Wow.
Just when i was thinking that i might get one of those, this thread pops up, and TOTALLY cures me of that desire.
every now and then I thought I would really like the Do or Go, but was quite turned off by Mr. Mungo in a couple of threads.
These testimonies of modules burning up and the $300 charge are pretty scary to me.
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Post by richard » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:23 pm

waveglider wrote:For modules that cost so much money to begin with, you'd think there would be better protection circuitry against inadvertent mis-plugging or "power spikes"
Well I am tempted to say the same. I'd imagine delicate and expensive digital modules would be protected against bad luck and idiocy? At least one of which I appear to suffer from. It appears not...
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Post by GNE » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:37 pm

I have a G0 and D0.
The latching mechanism for the SD card [ G0 ] stopped working.
John fixed it free of charge and super fast. [ USA to Australia ]
I have had nothing but great experiences with Mungo.

G0 and D0 are probably my favorite modules.

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Post by mudlogger » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:44 pm

i have a d0 and no issues so far - sounds might it might be picky with power. I use makenoise power.

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Post by Dofkev » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:14 pm

I have d0, g0, p0, and w0. Never any issues with any of them. It is alarming to hear of modules just "dying".

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Post by mckenic » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:33 pm

Christ!!!
Sorry to read that Richard! Wow, shipping to Oz, $300 and the time you will be without it... Ouch!

I very much admire and respect the calm tone you have here! Me, I would be farting fire!

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Post by akrylik » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:33 am

So there is no warranty on Mungo modules? :hmm:

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Post by Dstone » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:50 am

I have to say I've had no issues with the d0 and I'd like to own a few other mungo modules.

I use the d0 in every patch. The g0 died and it's a big money fix, but I really never got along with it. Also, I have a lot of modules sitting around cause I'm short on case.. Don't know if I should buy a case, sell stuff, or fix a module I don't jive with.. Heavy!

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Post by suckspit » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:51 am

1 or 2 isolated cases, i wouldn't be so worried about...
but OP having 2 modules fry, then a few more wigglers with similar experiences, is a little too much risk to take. (& price tag is not helping)

but hearing the demos and seeing videos out there, these seem to be a great lineup of modules... darn...
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Post by akrylik » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:54 am

Wouldn't it be great if everyone who said they had a Mungo module die on them also specified the power supply they were using at the time? Who knows, maybe a hidden influence emerges.

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Post by suckspit » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:57 am

akrylik wrote:Wouldn't it be great if everyone who said they had a Mungo module die on them also specified the power supply they were using at the time? Who knows, maybe a hidden influence emerges.
+1 to that.
might help in solving whatever is causing this.

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Post by Dstone » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:41 am

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Post by digidandy » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:23 am

I'd also like to balance the picture a bit: I had my g0 sent to mungo for an audio upgrade, and the turnaround was extremely fast, and he didn't charge me for return shipping (to Europe).

The bit about posting power supply info seems very helpful ...
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Post by richard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:13 am

First death was with a Doepfer DIY2 (possibly working on the edge of its capacity)

Second with a Pittsburg Cell 90

Mutable 5v adapters in both

both appear to be working fine otherwise, then and now
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Post by richard » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:11 am

mckenic wrote:Christ!!!
I very much admire and respect the calm tone you have here! Me, I would be farting fire!
Thanks. As I don't really know the causes or the extent of these problems I don't want to rant and rage about anything. I hope others won't either.

I think most of us agree these are extraordinary modules we would like to see available, and also that, for better or worse, John does things "differently". But the sharing of information about all such problems also seems very important. So I hope the thread could yield information that might be useful to everyone.
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