New Product - Vintage Mini moog inspired Eurorack modules

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New Product - Vintage Mini moog inspired Eurorack modules

Post by Now and Zen » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:23 pm

Hello fellow wigglers,


I'd just like to announce our new company and the first Eurorack modules that we have developed. The MiniMod is a range of 5 modules based on the classic RA Moog Model D portable synthesiser and comprise VCO, VCF, VCA, Dual Contour and Glide + Noise.

There are full details, sounds and a few video's here:

www.ajhsynth.com

I've been messing with synths for more than 15 years now, this originally started as an SDIY project of my own but sort of got out of hand ...... :eek:


All comments, good and otherwise, gratefully received!


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Post by dmod » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:26 pm

Cool looks great! I will give them a listen later too. :tu: Welcome to eurorack boys! Cheers!

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Post by dmod » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:33 pm

Sounds great too! Very nice guys! Might have to give some modules a little overseas adventure :hihi:

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Post by mojopin » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:41 pm

Great website, descriptions and videos. I didn't quite get the glide hold until I watched the video. I would love to play with that and see what I can come up with.

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Post by Synthacon » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:42 pm

Hand matching the resisters in the VCF is a massive part of the RA Mini sound so well done with that.
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Post by LoveBot » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:08 pm

wow, looks and sounds just great! Attention to detail and faithful to original circuit designs too! :yay:

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Post by bodo » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:17 pm

Sounds amazing and very accurate indeed. Good luck in Eurowonderland!

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Post by ben_hex » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:34 pm

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Post by bkinsman » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:46 pm

Awesome guys! Why white/silver faceplates and not black tho?

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Post by LoveBot » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:31 pm

Checked out the demos, I like what I hear. Would love to hear more bass patches/examples, and also the saturation of the VCA for that Moogy growl. Overall, good stuff. Found this in the FAQ section, thought it was interesting:
The vast majority of components on the MiniMod circuit boards are small SMD devices, which are much more compact than their older through hole equivalents. We only use through hole components when an SMD equivalent is not available or would change and/or compromise the sound.This allows all of the circuitry to be fitted into the much smaller Eurorack module format, this would not be possible with vintage through hole components.

For the transistors themselves we commonly use paired transistor devices to save space, these contain two transistors within a small six pin package. These transistors use EXACTLY the same silicon die as their much larger through hole equivalents. In through hole transistors the actual die inside is very small, as can be seen from the picture below. Most of the transistor package is either empty space or filler resins which have no effect on the electrical characteristics of the transistors themselves.

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Post by clusterchord » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:34 pm

Wish the filter had another dedicated cv in with attenuator (or attenuverter) and the key follow was solved with a 3-pos switch.

As it is, if you want a classic mini patch, with envelope using the cv in, key cv doing the 100% follow for example, and now you want to bring lfo or fm via vco3 (I.e. Using the mod wheel on mini), you have to resort to patching into 1/3 or 2/3 inputs.. That have no attenuation.. or I'm missing something ?

Btw, a huge plus on introducing cv of the resonance via vactrol.



Bottom line, a big undertaking and attention to detail from what I can tell so far. wish you the best.
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Post by Now and Zen » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:41 pm

Thanks for all of the kind words :oops:

It probably took twice as long to develop as was necessary but OCD stepped in and we spent lots of time getting the detail right. :bang: Because of component densities and limited pcb size we had to go smd rather than through hole on components, this entailed a lot of extra work on component selection and threw up other problems such as different capacitance between pcb tracks which had to be addressed where it has an impact on sound and/or functionality. This meant that we had to make quite a few prototypes before we were happy with the modules. We still had to use through hole components for some parts such as ladder filter transistors and vactrols.

We are walking a fine line with the web site, on the one hand it has to be easy to understand to someone that is completely new to modular synths and OTOH doesn't insult the intelligence of more experienced Eurorack users. Hope we've got it right.

So, thanks again and keep wiggling! :goo: :goo: :goo:


All the best,
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Post by CF3 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:45 pm

Fantastic :party:

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Post by Now and Zen » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:51 pm

bkinsman wrote:Awesome guys! Why white/silver faceplates and not black tho?
Yes, we thought long and hard about it and went towards silver as it's the colour of the vast majority of Eurorack modules and frames.

If the demand is there we could certainly do special edition black panels too at some point in the future.

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Post by Now and Zen » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:15 pm

clusterchord wrote:
As it is, if you want a classic mini patch, with envelope using the cv in, key cv doing the 100% follow for example, and now you want to bring lfo or fm via vco3 (I.e. Using the mod wheel on mini), you have to resort to patching into 1/3 or 2/3 inputs.. That have no attenuation.. or I'm missing something ?

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If you use a split patch lead or multi together 1/3 and 2/3 inputs they will sum to effectively give an extra 1v/oct input, but you'd need an extra mixer to control level.

Problem was fitting everything into 14hp of rack space, if we'd left out the VC-Emphasis this would could have added an extra CV input and level control instead. However the beauty of eurorack means that most people have or can get a spare mixer and multis whereas VC-Emphasis has to be built into the module, it can't be added by patching up. Hope this is helpful!

Many thanks for the kind words :tu:

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Post by smcumber » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:17 pm

looks incredible, way cool :sb:

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Post by allert » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:29 pm

Saving up starts….. Now!

Nice work! Looking forward to this.

Cheers,
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Post by grillo » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:30 pm

Love these. Really well designed, definitely going to get some of those.

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Post by pfaffenberg » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:47 pm

This is a massive blow to the Euro planning.

Well done. Excite over this. :hyper:

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Post by flo » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:45 pm

Looks great!

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Post by DonaldCrunk » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:14 pm

Looks awesome, way more patch points and possibilities than i would have expected from a modularized mini.

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Post by L » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:54 am

Great news!
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Post by ElectroAndy » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:00 pm

I'm wondering if these will fit a skiff case. What are the depth of the modules? Can see it for the vco but not for any other modules.

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Post by mmelnick » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:54 pm

These look great! Any US distributor?
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Post by leeski » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:31 pm

Wow, great work and I like Bournemouth too.
Good luck with these great modules :tu: :tu:
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