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xenus_dad wrote:Listening to Mylar Melodies' interview with Olivier.
Had we already talked about Marbles' hidden modes? If you hold T down for 3-4 seconds on each color, you get a different rhythm generation algorithm. I didn't know this. Also, I thought hidden things were evil!
if modulating the jitter, rate, etc. aka the whole drum-section & then freezing it with deja-vu, will all the modulation gets frozen in the modulated state? Do you know what I mean wigglerz? So it would sample the last steps appropriate to the deja vu stetting of all the modulated rhythmic variation... I didn't get this from all the skimming through the Videos/Manual.
THAT would be pretty amazing!
Mugsy1999 wrote:Still on order from Perfect Circuit. Anyone have info on when the next batch will go out?
The preorders seem to all refer to “June” batch. So not too much longer of a (painful) wait. I have to say, though, that manual is awesome. The waveform diagrams are so helpful and brilliantly executed. Can’t wait
For those who might be interested, i just investigated the alternate modes and tried to figure out what they do. I only listened to the t outputs.
Green alternate:
Bias still sets the propability for a trigger on T1 or T3 to occur, but the decision is no longer made between those two. Instead a trigger can occur on both or on no channel according to your settings and the dice.
Yellow alternate:
Polyrhythm machine. One channel gets multiplied, the other divided. Here is what ratios i heard going from 12 o'clock to CW (no guarantee).
Instant afro/poly machine around 12 o'clock. Made me empathize Olivier's "when it sounds great with just clicks..." another time.
As i did not explore the default red mode too much i wouldn't be sure what the alternate does. At first it seems to include patterns with more triggers. It also sounds a lot afro. Yummy.
Nino wrote:For those who might be interested, i just investigated the alternate modes and tried to figure out what they do. I only listened to the t outputs.
Green alternate:
Bias still sets the propability for a trigger on T1 or T3 to occur, but the decision is no longer made between those two. Instead a trigger can occur on both or on no channel according to your settings and the dice.
Yellow alternate:
Polyrhythm machine. One channel gets multiplied, the other divided. Here is what ratios i heard going from 12 o'clock to CW (no guarantee).
Instant afro/poly machine around 12 o'clock. Made me empathize Olivier's "when it sounds great with just clicks..." another time.
As i did not explore the default red mode too much i wouldn't be sure what the alternate does. At first it seems to include patterns with more triggers. It also sounds a lot afro. Yummy.
Congrats for figuring out green and orange. Red is a variant of the coin toss (branches, normal green) mode, with a third choice in which no trigger is generated.
xenus_dad wrote:Listening to Mylar Melodies' interview with Olivier.
Had we already talked about Marbles' hidden modes? If you hold T down for 3-4 seconds on each color, you get a different rhythm generation algorithm. I didn't know this. Also, I thought hidden things were evil!
Great spot, thanks! Those are some really cool variations on some already quite varied rhythms!
Mugsy1999 wrote:Still on order from Perfect Circuit. Anyone have info on when the next batch will go out?
The preorders seem to all refer to “June” batch. So not too much longer of a (painful) wait. I have to say, though, that manual is awesome. The waveform diagrams are so helpful and brilliantly executed. Can’t wait
Add 4 weeks to that for production delays (info as of yesterday in the Plaits thread)
Mugsy1999 wrote:Still on order from Perfect Circuit. Anyone have info on when the next batch will go out?
The preorders seem to all refer to “June” batch. So not too much longer of a (painful) wait. I have to say, though, that manual is awesome. The waveform diagrams are so helpful and brilliantly executed. Can’t wait
Add 4 weeks to that for production delays (info as of yesterday in the Plaits thread)
Rate (noon) is initial, and then divide CCW & multiply CW or do they start at full CCW and go from there for each of the rate modes??
and
before i forget
my last questions would be, when adjusting the gate width/randomization for the T section with the little button or the settings for the Y generator with the little button on the X section after you let go of the button what happens to your original settings for the respective settings?
and i think i figured out that only t1 and t3 are affected by the Gate settings and t2 always stays the same, please do correct me if i am wrong
That's the setting that gives a perfectly straight clock.
Rate (noon) is initial, and then divide CCW & multiply CW
Yes.
what happens to your original settings for the respective settings?
The knob temporarily goes into a relative knob: the corresponding setting doesn't immediately take the value of knob. But if you turn the knob CCW, the setting decreases, and if you turn the knob CW, the setting increases - until the knob and the setting are aligned.
and t2 always stays the same
Yes, so that it can be reliably used to clock something else.
ndoe22 wrote:Just got marbles in my rack yesterday. Really digging it so far a lot to explore. I also own grids but it has been out of my rack but i have a larger rack coming now. Do i keep both or is the t side kinda the same as grids? I know its not the same but i was only using grids for basic drum triggering then.
I will explore more once i can when my new case get here, just wanted to hear your thoughts.
I'm curious about this as well. Anyone else have both of these and found that Marbles can somewhat replace grids?
I don't have Grids, though i think the answer highly depends on what primarily you want to use Marbles for. If you just use it ony for triggering drums you probably are ok with only one of it, if you're not heading for too complicated patterns or many layers.
On the other hand you can let Grids play the drums and let Marbles sequence some oscillators and/or percussion.
Or Marbles>Grids, or Grids>Marbles
ndoe22 wrote:Just got marbles in my rack yesterday. Really digging it so far a lot to explore. I also own grids but it has been out of my rack but i have a larger rack coming now. Do i keep both or is the t side kinda the same as grids? I know its not the same but i was only using grids for basic drum triggering then.
I will explore more once i can when my new case get here, just wanted to hear your thoughts.
I'm curious about this as well. Anyone else have both of these and found that Marbles can somewhat replace grids?
I use both. The way Marbles is set up, it's two channels and if you make one side chaotic, the other's less chaotic. With Grids you have more control over each of the channels and they're also quite clearly adapted for kick, snare, hat. Since I tend to want to use Marbles as the gate AND melody source for voices, I still need gates for drums and modulation which is what I use Grids for.
ookrsia wrote:How does Marbles react to irregular external clocks for example if you send in random bursts of triggers?
Which input? T or X?
What would you suspect the module is doing or not doing?
I'm talking about the external clock input T section. The manual doesn't really say that much about it.
These kinds of inputs are usually designed for stable clocks, and usually require like three or more triggers to calculate the tempo.
So what happens with the T outputs if you send in a burst of like 15 triggers? (Let's forget the "irregular" part for now.)
Could Marbles be used to convert(using the clock signal manipulations of the T side of the module) a burst into three different kind of versions using the T outs?
How is Marbles as a quantizer? I've watched videos of sampling scales or pitch cv and then quantizing/ randomizing it, or using the sample cv as a scale to quantize internal randomizations. but what about not sampling but realtime quantization / randomization of external pitch?
