Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by propertyof » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:06 am

dropthedyle wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:08 am
The module has landed in my rack ! Expect some demos (next week) !
Sweet! Did you order it directly from ADDAC?

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by dropthedyle » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:09 am

propertyof wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:06 am
dropthedyle wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:08 am
The module has landed in my rack ! Expect some demos (next week) !
Sweet! Did you order it directly from ADDAC?
Yes ... 4 years ago 8-)
more seriously they are effective with their direct sale but it is done by email

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by Alexander Kuznetsov » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:59 am

Has anyone received an email with a tracking number?

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by soundslikejoe » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:05 am

Didn't receive any info...

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Post by dropthedyle » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:16 am

For me, no tracking number received before the delivery by dhl

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by soundslikejoe » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:20 pm

Same! Surprised to find this at the house today! Welcome little dude.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by chaosium » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:19 pm

Waiting patiently for mine (and a Relabi) to be shipped by them.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by chaosium » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:07 pm

I got mine! Now uh, does it need to be master clock? I was hoping to have my multiclock output simultaneously to the 403 and Pam's.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by monads » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:59 am

chaosium wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:07 pm
I got mine! Now uh, does it need to be master clock? I was hoping to have my multiclock output simultaneously to the 403 and Pam's.
I don't believe needs to be master, take a look at the "Tap/Ping" input which is for syncing to external clocks!

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by chaosium » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:06 pm

monads wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:59 am
chaosium wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:07 pm
I got mine! Now uh, does it need to be master clock? I was hoping to have my multiclock output simultaneously to the 403 and Pam's.
I don't believe needs to be master, take a look at the "Tap/Ping" input which is for syncing to external clocks!
That’s what i thought, it seemed like the bpm wasn’t being properly detected from the multiclock, possibly because TRS cable in? It worked a bit better TS in from PNW, but possibly placebo effect ;)

I’ll keep playing to see what it likes best.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by Jaypee » Thu May 20, 2021 4:20 pm

How does the module react with ext. trigger (sync)?

Happy to finally see it released!
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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by soundslikejoe » Thu May 20, 2021 5:18 pm

It prefers to be the master clock. But the firmware is still evolving.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by noisewreck » Sat May 29, 2021 2:28 pm

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Nah... you're thinking in "sequencer clocks" but this is thinking in Meter. BPM is not the same as time signature. Ex... If you have 120BPM and a Time Signature of 4|4, then you generate 120 quarter notes in 60 seconds. If your PPQN is 4ppqn in this scenario, you would have 4X120 pulses in 60 seconds.

So... My assumption based on music theory and the layout of this module... If you set the BPM to 120 and the Time Signature to 4|4 and the BEATS/bar to 16... then you will have a super fast stream of 16th notes.

250BPM in 4|4 = 250 Quarter Notes per minute. At 4PPQN (aka 16 Beats/bar) you have 1000 clock triggers in 60 seconds.
The problem is that, as far as I can tell from the manual, those two bolded notions aren't distinct in the ADDAC403 - a time signature of 4/4 means Beats/Bar=4 and Beat Unit=4, and thus a 1ppqn Beats output. This is also reflected in the 5/4 time signature example on page 3.

From a music theory vantage point, I'd guess that the idea is to use ADDAC403 with an external clock multiplier. However, clock multipliers don't work all that well in the real world. They glitch when the input tempo changes, which I'm afraid would take the fun out of ADDAC403's metric modulation CV inputs (pun intended).
I see where the confusion is. I don’t have the unit, but looking at the panel layout, if you mentally substitute “tuplet” with “subdivision of beat” things will become clearer.

So, in the case of 4/4, “bar” output will send out one trigger per 4 quarter notes, “beat” out will send a trigger out per each quarter note, and if you want 16th notes, then you’ll set “tuplet” to 4 thus subdividing each 1/4 note to 4 pulses, which translates to 16th notes.

Tuplet would be a subdivision of whatever the beat is set to. So if your beat is 8 (meaning 8th notes), then setting tuplet to 2 will yield 16th notes from the tuplet output.

BPM is should still be calculated based on the rate of quarter notes per minute, unless ADDAC has gotten “creative”. This is certainly how it is in DAWs.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by chaosium » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:05 pm

soundslikejoe wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 5:18 pm
It prefers to be the master clock. But the firmware is still evolving.
Is there another one in progress a bit further along with connecting to other clocks? I don’t know if i’ve spotted it yet.

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Post by Multi Grooves » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:49 am

This really needs a video breakdown. Wow it's been a log time coming.
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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by monads » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:56 pm

Make sure to FW update! I recently noticed I had the old original and just updated last night to the latest "E_O".

E_0, May, 27th, 2021

E_0 Changes Log:
* IMPROVED: Ping detection
* FIXED: Tap tempo startup initialization bug

C_9 Changes Log:
* IMPROVED: Ping detection
* IMPROVED: Pot reaction display now showing correct values
* ADDED: Now showing firmware revision at startup

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by ee_ » Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:38 pm

Almost bought one of these today. Just a little too pricey. Looks great though, still considering it as a master clocking source down the road.
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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by clwilla » Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:34 am

Definitely looking in to this module as odd times are, for one reason or another, difficult in Eurorack.

But some sort of video manual is in order. This thing is cryptic.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by texturerama » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:01 pm

Can anyone who owns this module comment on what is possible with the 403 that isn't possible with a standard clock (PNW, for example) and a clock divider w/ logic (like, say, the Shakmat Time Wizard)?

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by soundslikejoe » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:39 pm

Easy to dial in meter downbeat resets.... 15/8, 7/4, etc.
Easier to phase clocks.

Many other features are duplicate clock features found in things like QCD. Triplet, swing, divisions, etc.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by clwilla » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:42 am

soundslikejoe wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:39 pm
Easy to dial in meter downbeat resets.... 15/8, 7/4, etc.
Easier to phase clocks.

Many other features are duplicate clock features found in things like QCD. Triplet, swing, divisions, etc.
Should I take this to suggest that perhaps the most useful aspect of this module for those wanting to play odd times is to set up the time signature (7/8 or whatever), and use the “Bar” trigger as a reset for modules like Batumi or PNW or a sequencer in order to facilitate odd times across the synth (better invest in a mult or 2, lol)?

Odd times shouldn’t be difficult. They’ve been a function of music as long as there’s been music. If even this simple function is made easy, this module is a no brainer for a guy like me.

This module needs a video, bad. I want to buy one, but I need to see how it works.

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Re: Introducing ADDAC403 VC Time Signature Clock Sources

Post by TumeniKnobs » Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:58 pm

clwilla wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:42 am
soundslikejoe wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:39 pm
Easy to dial in meter downbeat resets.... 15/8, 7/4, etc.
Easier to phase clocks.

Many other features are duplicate clock features found in things like QCD. Triplet, swing, divisions, etc.
Should I take this to suggest that perhaps the most useful aspect of this module for those wanting to play odd times is to set up the time signature (7/8 or whatever), and use the “Bar” trigger as a reset for modules like Batumi or PNW or a sequencer in order to facilitate odd times across the synth (better invest in a mult or 2, lol)?

Odd times shouldn’t be difficult. They’ve been a function of music as long as there’s been music. If even this simple function is made easy, this module is a no brainer for a guy like me.

This module needs a video, bad. I want to buy one, but I need to see how it works.
+1. This looks very interesting but I’d really love to see someone dissect this and give it a good demo. Aside from the video posted in this thread can anyone point me to some recordings? I was weaned on Rush, Yes, King Crimson and odd time sigs are in my blood. I’d love to have something that will spark creativity in odd times.

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