Plinky. Non-commercial sampler/granular polysynth

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Re: Plinky. Non-commercial sampler/granular polysynth

Post by mmalex » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:01 pm

quick question for people more used to midi over usb than me - would you expect a synth like this to be a midi device or a midi host? what are controller keyboards usually? im guessing device, with a micro usb? so the assumption there is you plug the controller into a pc.
but if i then want to control plinky with ccs, should i be assuming that the midi usb crowd want to squirt that down from a pc?
i guess ive answered my own question- it probably wants to be a midi device, not host, though that precludes plugging it directly into a controller keyboard (coz micro usb b to usb b is not a thing)
curious if i have the wrong end of the stick tho

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Post by mckenic » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:21 pm

Personally Id want to control it from my pc - have a Touche, Mpk mini, continuumini attached to the pc to act as controllers.

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Post by forrest » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:13 pm

I'd buy a kit for sure

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Post by spoor » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:43 am

mmalex wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:04 am
quick update and new demo ...
let me know in the comments if youre up for a kit so we can get steve from thonk (more) excited :)
Great stuff. Will add my my interest here if that’s OK: am definitely up for a kit, ideally with the SMD pre-soldered.

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Post by mmalex » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:12 am

definitely the plan to have the smd pre soldered, with the exception perhaps of the leds - they are quite big, and they pop into pre drilled holes that keeps them in place (more or less) so its much easier than usual smd soldering. makes a good gentle introduction in fact :)
the rest of the kit is just the normal thru hole hardware: jacks, power sockets, 2 pots, and some board headers. so, a relatively easy kit from that pov

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Post by spoor » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:29 am

Great. It’s really just that STM-looking chip thing that I’d prefer someone else to stick on!

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Post by mmalex » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:27 am

me too! jesus I hate soldering those big chips. all the components on the main board will be pre-assembled, so its basically jacks, sockets, pots + leds on the backside of the front panel.

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Post by meska » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:04 am

How about the screen, need separat purchas ? :)
If yes give use the linck ;p
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Post by mmalex » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:21 am

I hope the screen will be part of the kit, of course - but it's a fairly common / generic 0.91" oled display. you can find them on ebay, aliexpress, even amazon if you're interested - but I'm sure the screen will be included in the kit.

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Post by meska » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:18 pm

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Post by Efudd » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:16 am

I'll happily take a kit!

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Post by mmalex » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:42 am

no new info really - waiting for feedback from my busy beta testers but ive put up a one page placeholder website https://plinkysynth.com which makes it feel a bit more real...

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Post by spoor » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:42 am

Do you think you’ll open source this?

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Post by meska » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:51 am

spoor wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:42 am
Do you think you’ll open source this?
as i remenber, he say somthing like Mutable instrument, after some batch it will perhaps go on github ;)
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Post by mmalex » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:25 am

yeah what meska said. I learned from emilie/mutable stuff, so I thought I'd follow that model of open sourcing after the initial runs have sold out. Timing all depends on how it sells, I guess. it's all new territory for me! So we will have to see how it all goes.

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Post by mmalex » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:53 pm

btw spoor - if youre excited for the open plinky from a learning pov, i feel you! and humbly recommend the longish videos on my youtube channel that haphazardly cover all the building blocks of plinky from both hw and sw point of view. sort of a condensed whistle stop tour of everything i learned over a year or two of tinkering. i hope you find them useful.
if its more for building a plinky ‘for cost’ or forking it to do some variation, im afraid itll be a bit of a wait, but hopefully will be eventually possible. id like to try selling it first - its not gonna pay the bills, but id like it to take the edge off an expensive hobby :)))

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Post by meska » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:15 am

*off topic Question*
You have allready rull the game devlopment with dreams, now it time for the synth jobby ? ( sitly more job than hobby ? ) a new world of devlopment ? :)
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Post by mmalex » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:12 am

well, i quit my job :) but not for plinky. but that gave me more time for this push to finish.
for most of the year, i found i did more plinky the busier i was shipping dreams. it was like, somehow, a palette cleanser. the trick for me personally is to choose something i can do in tiiiiny steps. almost all of plinky was developed in 20 minute blocks, one each day or two. the bigger blocks were rare, or came recently after i was ‘unemployed’ :)

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Post by Lux A Turner » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:58 am

Following this thread with interest...


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Post by spoor » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:14 am

mmalex wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:53 pm
btw spoor - if youre excited for the open plinky from a learning pov, i feel you! and humbly recommend the longish videos on my youtube channel that haphazardly cover all the building blocks of plinky from both hw and sw point of view. sort of a condensed whistle stop tour of everything i learned over a year or two of tinkering. i hope you find them useful.
if its more for building a plinky ‘for cost’ or forking it to do some variation, im afraid itll be a bit of a wait, but hopefully will be eventually possible. id like to try selling it first - its not gonna pay the bills, but id like it to take the edge off an expensive hobby :)))
I was curious from a learning point of view (I’ll take a look at those videos), but I was also wondering whether variants might emerge as I’d imagine the HW could host a range of different uses. But I think its great that you’re going to try and make a go at selling it - especially if that allows you to spend time on future improvements etc.

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Post by cramern » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:36 am

mmalex wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:01 pm
quick question for people more used to midi over usb than me - would you expect a synth like this to be a midi device or a midi host? what are controller keyboards usually? im guessing device, with a micro usb? so the assumption there is you plug the controller into a pc.
but if i then want to control plinky with ccs, should i be assuming that the midi usb crowd want to squirt that down from a pc?
i guess ive answered my own question- it probably wants to be a midi device, not host, though that precludes plugging it directly into a controller keyboard (coz micro usb b to usb b is not a thing)
curious if i have the wrong end of the stick tho
If you had midi host implementation, that would be really cool for MPE. A lot of MPE controllers (like the Linnstrument or Seaboard) would be really fun to use with the Plinky as a sound source, and they often have USB midi. If Plinky is a host, you could connect the controller straight into it without needing a midi interface.

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Post by Hovercraft » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:05 pm

Very interested in a kit! Sounds great from the demo, and looks fun to play.

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Post by four_corners » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:46 pm

I'd buy a kit too!

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Post by 3hands » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:32 pm

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Re: Plinky. Non-commercial sampler/granular polysynth

Post by mmalex » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:40 am

thanks for everyone's positive responses here! things are slowly moving forwards- I've ordered the last batch of prototypes from the (hopefully final) assembly house in china, this time adding an encoder at the request of a beta tester. after that, I'm gonna place the order for at least 50. To find out when that happens, would you mind signing up to this mailing list so that I can email people as soon as it's out? thanks -> http://eepurl.com/heuCM5
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