modules with 3.5mm TRS MIDI jacks

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Post by kay_k » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:09 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:The SDS VCO can be soldered either way, so it's not Arturia.
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Post by kay_k » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:21 pm

I've added Twisted Electron to the list. Has anyone an idea what pin config they are using?

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Post by kay_k » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:27 am

I contacted Twisted Electron .. no reply :(

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Post by kay_k » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:28 am

Regarding MFB here some useful info in this thread:
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Post by kay_k » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:28 pm

Added the Pittsburgh Sequence Designer 128

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Post by kay_k » Mon May 07, 2018 6:34 am

I have worked my own table on the Superbooth18 and haven't had the time to walk around looking for new modules with MIDI.
So if you have seen new modules please reply so I can add them.

I went to twisted electrons and asked them about their polarity but forgot his reply.

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Post by brandonlogic » Mon May 07, 2018 7:08 am

Zetaohm - FLXS1 Voltage Sequencer (Korg pole)

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Post by kay_k » Mon May 07, 2018 8:19 am

brandonlogic wrote:Zetaohm - FLXS1 Voltage Sequencer (Korg pole)
oh, I've seen that around before and forgot to add it. Thanks.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Mon May 07, 2018 2:56 pm

New Pittsburgh sequencer is Arturia. According to them MIDI association decided that they're standardizing the Arturia mapping.

Korg is too busy fighting with the manufacturers who don't appreciate TRS MIDI to begin with :hihi: Weird choice if you ask me.
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Post by kay_k » Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:New Pittsburgh sequencer is Arturia. According to them MIDI association decided that they're standardizing the Arturia mapping.

Korg is too busy fighting with the manufacturers who don't appreciate TRS MIDI to begin with :hihi: Weird choice if you ask me.
tbh I am surprised to see that many "polyphony" modules nowadays that don't offer at least a rudimentary midi support.
It would really mean less cables in the system, while it would only take a jack.
If I were to make a multi VCO or ENV I'd add this and maybe even a thru port for daisy chaining.

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Post by av500 » Wed May 09, 2018 3:44 pm

trig31: Arturia

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Post by kay_k » Wed May 09, 2018 3:46 pm

av500 wrote:trig31: Arturia
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Re: modules with 3.5mm TRS MIDI jacks

Post by euromorcego » Fri May 11, 2018 3:44 am

kay_k wrote: - Faderfox SC4 (I/O; Arturia?)
it is tip = pin 4, ring = pin 5, the Arturia adapter works.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Fri May 11, 2018 4:08 am

kay, are you gonna make adaptors ?
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Post by Morphology » Fri May 11, 2018 7:10 am

The new Dreadbox Lil' Erebus has a 3.5mm MIDI In.

I've bought a kit, but haven't built it yet, so I don't know the polarity of the MIDI Jack.

Looking at screenshots of the PCB, it looks like it's Mono (Tip-Sleeve) Style, rather than TRS?

When I get a moment I'll check.

Edit: I Checked:

T: 5
R: 4
S: N/C

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Post by kay_k » Mon May 14, 2018 7:38 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:kay, are you gonna make adaptors ?
those little gender changer ones? dunno if it is worth the work, I can't see to make money with them.

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Post by kay_k » Mon May 14, 2018 7:52 am

Morphology wrote:The new Dreadbox Lil' Erebus has a 3.5mm MIDI In.

I've bought a kit, but haven't built it yet, so I don't know the polarity of the MIDI Jack.

Looking at screenshots of the PCB, it looks like it's Mono (Tip-Sleeve) Style, rather than TRS?

When I get a moment I'll check.

Edit: I Checked:

T: 5
R: 4
S: N/C

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I think that makes it Korg standard but my brain doesn't cope with the heat so well.

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Re: modules with 3.5mm TRS MIDI jacks

Post by strangegravity » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:11 pm

euromorcego wrote:
kay_k wrote: - Faderfox SC4 (I/O; Arturia?)
it is tip = pin 4, ring = pin 5, the Arturia adapter works.
Is this correct? I'm going to slap a full sized jack on the side of my case and solder it to the bottom of an Arturia style 3.5mm MIDI. Which pins do I need to connect? I could put my cable on the meter and find out but if anyone knows ..........

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Post by strangegravity » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:34 pm

MIDI.org says Arturia goes like this:

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Post by cathmart » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:20 am

so i'm having trouble connecting my Beatstep pro MIDI cable to the MFB Nanozwerg Pro MIDI.

I see from this thread its an issue of
Polarity TRS Arturia:
and
Polarity non-TRS (a.k.a. MFB):

so what can I do to connect these two?

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Post by Seaweed Sound » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:31 am

Look for a TRS polarity reversing adapter or make a custom TRS cable with the polarity (pins) swapped.

A better solution is perhaps to get a MIDI to TRS adapter for each device and then connect with a standard MIDI cable. That way if you decide to use alternate MIDI setup in the future you can always connect anything you want or you can easily get MIDI cable of desired length should the physical layout change.

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Post by kay_k » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:22 am

cathmart wrote:so i'm having trouble connecting my Beatstep pro MIDI cable to the MFB Nanozwerg Pro MIDI.

I see from this thread its an issue of
Polarity TRS Arturia:
and
Polarity non-TRS (a.k.a. MFB):

so what can I do to connect these two?
you can just use the arturia TRS-DIN adapter and the MFB TS-DIN adapter and standard DIN MIDI cable between them.
Or you make your own adapter cable (connect as said above, measure with a diode tester which pin goes where, make custom cable to this measurement)

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Post by strangegravity » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:43 pm

strangegravity wrote:MIDI.org says Arturia goes like this:

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If I add a through jack next to this would I just jumper the same pins?

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Post by SOPiiAC » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:21 am

The new OP-Z oplab module has trs midi in and out.

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Post by kay_k » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:46 am

strangegravity wrote:
strangegravity wrote:MIDI.org says Arturia goes like this:

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If I add a through jack next to this would I just jumper the same pins?
Yes and no - It might work when split passively or maybe not, depending on your MIDI inputs. Some require more current then others. Usually a thru is actively buffered post optocoupler.
You could just buy our WK3 thru module ;)

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