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Post by drcz » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:35 pm

PS check out what i found recently :omg:
[video][/video][/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8StADMAoQ
he was a pianist/orchestra composer [a non-drone recommendation, some minimalism], but during his stay in US in 1975 he did record [in Columbia-Princeton Studio afaik] this beauty... it is Polish Radio's stereo version, so bear with the panning, the original was quadrophonic, meant to slowly rotate around the listener...
wonder what the source is, perhaps some heavily processed orchestra? or microphone feedbacks perhaps? Anyway pretty lovely. He claimed he got inspired by railway noises in his apartment.
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Post by asymptote » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:44 am

drcz wrote:asymptote a tape! <3 a cassette or a reel?
(I started recording on cassettes this year, found realy nice second hand teac deck, exploring dolby b/c nr now...).
of course, standing by!
I've been recording some of my recent sessions to cassette. Unfortunately, however, my tape recorder has been bugging out lately, and I've been finding some glitchy irregularities in my recordings. I'm still not sure if these are actually recorded onto the tape or if they are being introduced during playback. I'll have to figure that out at some point.
drcz wrote:I was completely unaware of this spectral music thing, just started reading. Meanwhile could you recommend some [particular] recordings (preferably with low dynamics?).
Gérard Grisey is the most central figure in spectral music. But, as you're probably discovering, his music is often more dynamic than is your preference. Really, the only reason I bring it up here is that I find the theoretical foundations of spectral music to be relevant to my own personal interests in "drone." For example, this is how Grisey describes the principles informing his Les Espaces Acoustiques cycle:
I would like to summarize the musical language of the pieces as follows:

- no more composing with notes but rather with tones;
- controlling the differences, i.e. developing (or not developing) the tone and speed of its development;
- taking into account the relativity of our perceptions;
- applying phenomena that have long been studied in electronic music studios to the arena of instrumental sound. These applications may be heard in their more radical forms in Partiels and Modulations;
- striving for a synthetic style in which various parameters contribute to the construction of a single sound. For example: the structure of un-tempered pitches results in the creation of new tone colours, giving rise to certain structures of duration, etc. The synthesis involves the creation of sounds (substance), on the one hand, and relationships among the tones (form), on the other.
Clearly, there is a lot in this description that can and should be applied to the kinds of "drones" we are concerned with here in this thread--I, at least, find these criteria to describe the most compelling aspects of "drone music." And although Grisey's music is generally more event-oriented and "dynamic" than is typical of drone, there are nevertheless important aspects of his work that have substantial overlap. The most obvious example I can think of is in the first portion of the piece Périodes:

[video][/video]

Another composer you ought to look into is Giacinto Scelsi--he was a major influence on Grisey and other specral composers, though in his own time he was widely overlooked and dismissed as an eccentric musical renegade. His most famous piece, Quattro pezzi su una nota sola, is well worth your attention:

[video][/video]

You should also definitely check out Iancu Dumitrescu. Over the last few decades he has produced an absolutely astounding body of work ranging from pieces composed for solo acoustic instrumentation to crazy computer wizardry. His iconic Medium III, composed for solo contrabass (performed by Fernando Grillo) and some ingenious microphone techniques, is simply MASSIVE and could, I think, be classified as "drone" except that such a designation actually seems silly and inconsequential when applied to a work of such towering significance. In any case, Dumitrescu has recently come to the attention of those in the know among the drone and doom crowd following the vinyl reissue of some pieces on Stephen O'Malley's label; I also think Wire did a feature on Dumitrescu in the past few years.

Unfortunately I couldn't find a You Tube video of Medium III, but here is another piece for solo bass (different performer) that is also quite good:

[video][/video]

And here's another classic example of Dumitrescu's genius, this time featuring Fernando Grillo (IIRC) in an ensemble format:

[video][/video]
Part I

[video][/video]
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Post by asymptote » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:53 am

drcz wrote:PS check out what i found recently :omg:
[video][/video][/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8StADMAoQ
he was a pianist/orchestra composer [a non-drone recommendation, some minimalism], but during his stay in US in 1975 he did record [in Columbia-Princeton Studio afaik] this beauty... it is Polish Radio's stereo version, so bear with the panning, the original was quadrophonic, meant to slowly rotate around the listener...
wonder what the source is, perhaps some heavily processed orchestra? or microphone feedbacks perhaps? Anyway pretty lovely. He claimed he got inspired by railway noises in his apartment.
Wow, thanks for turning me on to this! Love it! I'm not at all familiar with Sikorski, so this is super exciting.

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Post by medium Rob » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:41 am



recorded around 2013. two digital delays (no-input), fed into a mixer and amplified.



group effort, recorded in 2008. califone turntable, Yamaha PSS-560, Roland MC-202, no-input mixer, bit of electric guitar. it opens up after 9-10 minutes

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Post by drcz » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:23 pm

asymptote oh my! Dumitrescu is definitely the most interesting one to me. It is funny, these assumptions of spectralism resemble my notes from 2012 when Calineczka was slowly forming. Also "cogito" has similar timbres to my current experiments (it is so obvious: I got doepfer's A-188-1A). Many thanks for the reference!

medium Rob now _this_ (ie "rossignol") is the proper use of delays! pure rock'n'roll, ("special low frequency" of course); "Transformer Blues" seems a bit offtopic here, though I like it a lot (dylan carlson meets crawl unit?) -- imo best track on the tape. It must have been a great performance. Thanks!
PS I'm just checking out https://6335.bandcamp.com -- really nice jazz; and beautiful cover art! kudos
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Post by drcz » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:58 pm

an announcement: my C60 chromium cassette is out :omg:!
[bandcamp width=350 height=622 album=2810858429 size=large bgcol=ffffff linkcol=0687f5 package=1721921779]
https://szarareneta.bandcamp.com/album/ ... ej-inercji
title translation: ``Neutron yield for explosion-induced D-T compression in cylindrical system with heavy inertial layer''.
It is a homage to Polish hydrogen bomb programme (1970s).

In case you are interested in purchase, Szara Reneta is a lovely noise/fieldrecording label, the guy is super-nice and professional (I have his 5 tapes so far, all look great).
I will soon get a few copies so some swap might also be an option.

Cheers!
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Post by asymptote » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:52 am

drcz - Congratulations on the tape release! I'm streaming off Bandcamp now, and it sounds exquisite. I'll look forward to playing it through my actual stereo. I was thinking I'd order a physical copy, but I couldn't find any shipping info. I'm assuming it will be fairly expensive to send to the US. Do you know anything more about that?

powertran - I'm not sure that your track qualifies as "drone" according to the parameters of this thread, but I've got to admit that I like it quite a bit. There's a certain quality of reservedness and fragility that really appeals to me. Nice job!

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Post by drcz » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:07 pm

powertran hahaha it is super-short, kinda rythmic, intervals are very noticible and harmonious, and all of that is slightly echoed (check out the first post in this thread). I have literally no idea why I like it ;) thanks!

asymptote thank you! i've just sent you an email.
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Post by asymptote » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:43 pm

I've got a new track up on Soundcloud. Compared to my other contributions, this one's a bit more delicate, refined. It is based on three sine waves which are tuned to an A Major triad; the judicious application of frequency modulation, filter resonance, and acoustic feedback produces an archaeology of inherent relationship structures among the tones of the triad.

The track is downloadable as a high-quality .wav file for those who are into that kind of thing.

https://soundcloud.com/presentabsent/in ... ajor-triad

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Post by Avjr » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:32 pm

Notification emails for this thread have been going to the spam folder, missed out on the great news!

Congrats on the tape, will check that (and the rest posted) out when i'm in proper conditions to do so.

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Post by DickMarker » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:53 pm

Haha was just sitting at work, bored and listening to Jetsun Mila, and re-stumbled upon this thread.
Lots of good stuff - thanks for the kind words about Red Poll drcz - hope it kept you clean shaven for a while!

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Post by attacca » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:39 am

Pretty new to modular, first attempt at a drone patch:

https://u.teknik.io/vCOJN.mp3

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Post by drcz » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:10 pm

DickMarker yes sir it did, like the finest barber!
Avjr thanks!
asymptote almost too harmonic ;) waiting for at least equally long Am now! [or even some microtonal chord perhaps? the less common overtones the better!].
can you elaborate on the accoustic feedback?

attacca really nice! do you have a soundcloud/bandcamp/anything?
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Post by attacca » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:08 pm

drcz Thanks!
I don't have a Bandcamp yet, I need to come up with a name I suppose.

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Post by asymptote » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:48 pm

attacca wrote:Pretty new to modular, first attempt at a drone patch:

https://u.teknik.io/vCOJN.mp3
This is lovely attacca--thanks for sharing! Definitely report back when you have more tracks and a Soundcloud/Bandcamp page. I'd love to hear what else you're working on.
drcz wrote:asymptote almost too harmonic :wink: waiting for at least equally long Am now! [or even some microtonal chord perhaps? the less common overtones the better!].
can you elaborate on the accoustic feedback?
Bah...you and your 'rules'! :razz: And yes, I suppose that I set myself up to someday have to do an Am version. As for microtonal--yes! In fact, some of the tape tracks I've mentioned to you privately might be described as 'microtonal' (in the sense that the frequencies of my oscillators are not tuned to equally tempered intervals, but rather in such a way that the frequencies begin to interact in interesting ways when they are cross modulating each other).

Oh, and the 'acoustic feedback' thing...that is just my (probably not exactly accurate) way of describing feedback achieved from a spring reverb unit (Intellijel Springray), which I 'play' by keeping a tight grip on the limiter control so that the feedback just kind of breathes rather than howling and drowning out everything else.

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Post by drcz » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:59 am

Bah...you and your 'rules'!
8-)
I still have days when "trilogie de la mort" and "guitar too, for four" are perfectly fine, though less frequently now. [some of my "oranges" feel disgusting].
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Post by quollism » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:17 am

Hi all! drcz dropped me a line on reddit after seeing this thread and said I should link my track where I'm trying to do a bit of an Eliane Radigue thing.

Grab from http://www.quollism.com/goodies/rch214_ ... e_edit.mp3

And while I'm here have this slightly menancing swarm of synthesiser beeeeees

https://soundcloud.com/quollism/rch137-rhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And this olden days Thomas Koener-esque thing because I love olden days Thomas Koener.

https://soundcloud.com/quollism/rch099- ... r-was-here

Hope you like!

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Post by skot_e » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:29 am

Mmmmm, I like rhaaaaa... Drone-alicious

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Post by asymptote » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:54 am

quollism wrote:Hi all! drcz dropped me a line on reddit after seeing this thread and said I should link my track where I'm trying to do a bit of an Eliane Radigue thing.

Grab from http://www.quollism.com/goodies/rch214_ ... e_edit.mp3

And while I'm here have this slightly menancing swarm of synthesiser beeeeees

https://soundcloud.com/quollism/rch137-rhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And this olden days Thomas Koener-esque thing because I love olden days Thomas Koener.

https://soundcloud.com/quollism/rch099- ... r-was-here

Hope you like!
This is good stuff! I'm especially liking the Koener inspired track. Very nice.

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Post by drcz » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:58 pm

quollism thanks! the "radiguesque" is my favourite.

the "dark ambient stuff" reminds me of late aleph -- right before I killed the project (wow, it is already 11 years) I was getting into some longer compositions; of course it is "cheating" -- a lot of software use [in my defence, some of it I wrote myself]...
[video][/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP9UrPcIb48

but ambient shmambient -- check out what I just found! some archaic pretty noisy drone made on diy box:
https://soundcloud.com/user-624222268/otoro-drone-01
https://soundcloud.com/user-624222268/otoro-drone-01
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Post by Schläfer » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:05 am

Happy that you like my little experiment, and thanks for sharing it !
:goo:

It was more a testing session when i finished to build this little dronebox, but i should still make a proper track recording out of it.

I discovered this wonderful thread yesterday and i'm drifting in all these drones you posted and collected here, really good idea, and very good selection too, exactly the stuff i'm looking for in this kind of sound.

deep and without too much "decorative" layers on top, only the core of the sound, nothing more is needed :)

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Post by drcz » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:23 pm

Schläfer indeed, it seems we are pure reductionists in here! patiently waiting for your next ("proper") production.


Today I found in viewtopic.php?t=196639 -- truly eleh-ian 2 pieces! ("Enantiodromia" ends with ``some techno'' but is still lovely and hey, eleh does the same shit ;)).

[bandcamp width=100% height=120 album=3863270979 size=large bgcol=ffffff linkcol=0687f5 tracklist=false artwork=small]
https://thecoldvacuumofspace.bandcamp.c ... -exit-plan

PS I don't know why (or maybe I'm just blind?) I didn't post this one before:
https://soundcloud.com/manresa/anatolia
https://soundcloud.com/manresa/anatolia
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Post by Avjr » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:33 am

New piece created while testing my new Serge system.

https://soundcloud.com/angelovicentejr/testthreefour

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Post by drcz » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:12 pm

Avjr wrote:New piece created while testing my new Serge system.
:loves:

once again: exceptional!
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